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Jun 30, 2016
Welcome to the next exciting installment of the Real Fast Results podcast!  If you are an author, self-published or otherwise, and you want to get your work out to a much larger audience, the way to do that is via foreign language rights.  There’s a bit of a myth among small press authors and self-published authors that it's difficult, if not impossible to sell your work in this way.  The fact of the matter is that this isn’t correct.  In this episode, you’re going to learn why and how you should go about selling your foreign language rights to your books and other works. Today’s expert, author Elliott Katz is going to share this information with us today.  He has a long list of accomplishments when it comes to selling foreign language rights to his own works. What we’re promising, and we’re going to deliver, is how to sell foreign language rights to your books to publishers all around the world, and really build your credibility in your home market, and build your market in other countries within every continent.

Why You Should Sell Foreign Language Rights to Your Books

Selling foreign rights to your books really builds your credibility.  Have you ever noticed that when the bigforeign language rights publishers promote a book, they’ll translate it into 20 languages?  Or sell it in 30 countries?  When you see this you think, “Well, a big publisher can do that.  I can’t do that.”  But, now a person who is self-published can do it.  If they have a good book they can sell it all around the world. I’ve sold my book Being the Strong Man a Woman Wants: Timeless Wisdom on Being a Man, to publishers in 24 countries in Europe, Asia, Latin America, and Africa. The first thing is you have to ask yourself, is your book right for a foreign rights sale?  At first, I didn’t think my book was. I really thought it was for men in the United States and Canada, a North American thing. But ask, “Does your book appeal to human nature?”  If so, you probably can sell foreign rights to your book.  The next thing, in the past publishers went to foreign rights fairs in places like Frankfurt and London (and those fairs still exist).  For big publishers that’s great. But now, with email, you can also reach out to those publishers. So, the first step is, once you decide you want to sell foreign rights to your book, develop a really exciting email describing your book.  You can include a link to a television interview or reviews of your book, and of course, a summary and why you think it appeals to a wide market.  Then, get a list of foreign rights agents in countries around the world.  There are literary agents that specialize in selling books from other countries to publishers in their own country.  So, all you’ve got to do is Google “foreign rights agents”, and those lists will come up. Then, of course, send out the email, and one of the beauties is, just think, in the past, if you did this you would have to mail a copy of your book to each of the foreign agents. That would cost you a fortune.  Now, you send an email, and the ones that respond and are interested in seeing your book are the ones you spend the postage on to send them the book.  Then, agents that are interested in representing you will sell and market the book. They know the publishers in their market.  That’s their business.  When they make a deal, they negotiate a contract, and it’s a great thing.

Making Money Selling Foreign Rights to Your Book

Can you make a lot of money selling foreign rights to your book?  If you’ve got a big book, yes.  But, generally, you don’t make a lot of money, you might get a penny.  Of course, it depends on the size of the market, and it depends on the wealth of the country.  A wealthy country’s publishers pay more than those in a small country.  I can tell you, the advances I made ranged from a few hundred dollars from India to several thousands of dollars from more-wealthier countries where they charge more for books, such as countries in Europe or some countries in Asia. It all adds up.  For the amount of time you put into it, it’s a deal.  I mean, you’ve written the book already.  You don’t have to write a new book.  This is just extra money. And, it’s not just for the money, but also for the credibility it gives you.  When you say, “My books have been published in 24 countries,” that gets people to pay attention.  It must be a book worth reading.  So, it really helps.  It can give you a lot of credibility right here in the United States. Most deals are the traditional publishing deal.  There’s an advance on royalties, and then once the book earns back that advance, the publisher then send you royalty payments.  But, you know what?  Most people say just take the money and run. I’ve had some publishers to do that, and with other publishers, you’ve really got to chase them and keep asking them for royalty statements.  They just think they’ve paid you the advance; they’ll send you the 10, 3 copies. You really have to chase them to get royalty sales statements, and then there are additional royalties to be paid.  So, just take the money and run. No, I do.  I always follow up.  It’s just been my experience that a lot of these publishers, if I don’t follow up and ask them, to send me a report on sales like you’re required to do in a contract, it doesn’t happen.  Like, how long does it take to send an email?  If you can get additional payments by following up with them, that’s great.  But, what is hard about it is that they’re on the other side of the world and your ability to force them to send a sales report is limited. What are you going to do?  Hire a lawyer?  Hire an accountant to go audit them?  It can be a challenge. But, you did get an advance upfront, and it gives you a lot more credibility in selling your book than if you had sold it in just the United States and Canada. For a single title author,  it really depends on the country you are selling to.  From India, I got a few hundred dollars.  But, in richer countries, like in Europe where they pay more for books you can get a few thousand dollars.

Step by Step - How to Sell Foreign Language Rights to Your Books

Step 1 - Is my book suitable for foreign rights sales?

selling foreign language rightsThe first step is to look at your book and think, “Is it suitable for foreign rights sales?”  If it’s something that you think, “Well, this will only appeal to Americans,” maybe it’s not going to sell in China.  However, if you look at it and it’s something that appeals to human nature, it might sell to a broader market. For example, my book is about realizing that men in this generation weren’t really taught how to be men.  There’s a lot of confusion, and we hear all of these different messages.  Men weren’t taught by their fathers and other older male role models how to be a man.  That’s really what my book is about, being a man in the way men used to be taught. I thought this is really just a North American situation, like you see on the sitcoms on TV.  It doesn’t really apply to all these traditional countries where men may still have their traditional roles.  But, I tried it anyway, and there was a lot of interest. The first offers I got were from Mexico and Poland. Then I got an offer from a publisher in Brazil, and that was fascinating because isn’t Brazil where ‘machismo’ originated?  So, I thought, “Well, you know what?  Let’s just try.”  And, I approached these agents in different countries.  I guess what I realized was that cultures may be different, but human nature is the same.  So, if you think it’s something that would appeal to people in other countries, definitely try it.  It’s worth the effort. In the old days, publishers went to book fairs, and they still do, and for big publishers, that’s great.  But, now with the Internet and email, you can just sit at home and send out 20, 30, 50 emails to foreign rights agents.  That doesn’t cost you anything, and you can do it all through email.  And then see if there is interest.  Are agents interested in your book and asking for you to send them a copy?  The cost is nothing.  You can just send the email out and your only cost comes when they say, “Yes, send us your book.  We want to look at it.”  There’s no flying to Frankfurt, no paying for hotels. You’re saving so much money.  Give it a try. If you’ve written something that would appeal to only people in the United States, it might not be right for foreign sales. If you had a book of poetry, it might not sell in various countries.  Also possibly picture books or coffee table books might not be right for this. But, it really doesn’t hurt to try.  Now, just being able to do it all with the Internet, there are no barriers.  There’s no “Well, I’ve got to travel to Frankfurt. I’ve got to stay in a hotel.” That’s like thousands of dollars.  It’s not worth it, but if you do it yourself from home, it’s amazing.  Give it a try and see what the response is.

Step 2 - Write an Exciting Email About Your Book

The second step is to develop a really exciting email about your book.  Give your book a summary, and you can writing a promotional emailinclude links to reviews and links to television reviews you have done.  If you’ve sold rights in other countries, absolutely include that in the email because that gives it credibility.  Just sell them the book. Just tell them why this book is a good book, how it really benefits people, and that it’s gotten a lot of really good feedback.  Just sell it like you were talking to a person one-on-one, trying to convince them to buy your book. Just tell them how great it is and why you think it would be right for their market, and anything else that you think would be relevant. Then, if you think about it, you can send in an email more information than just explaining your book at a booth, at a fair.  You can link to media coverage, link to television coverage, or a radio interview.  Basically, you’re writing an email that is, in essence, a sales letter, and you're basically making the case that your book is really good, has a lot of potential, and is already being recognized with reviews, or any media interviews that you’ve done, or even sales figures in your current country.  Anything to make them say, “Hey, I need to look at this book.” If you’ve already sold foreign rights in other countries, that also gets their attention and tells them that it’s not just stuff that appeals to a North American market. If you have good reviews on Amazon, include those reader reviews.  Include anything that makes the book look interesting.  They’ll say to you, “Yeah, okay.  Send us a copy of the book.”  They’re not committing yet; they’re saying, “Okay, you’ve got our interest, now let’s see your book.”  The book is what has to sell, and it’s got to be a good book.

Step 3 - Find a List of Foreign Rights Agents

foreign rights agentsThe third step is, where do you get a list of foreign rights agents?  If you just Google “foreign rights agents”, what will come up is the big publishers.  They already have arrangements with foreign rights agents, and on their website, they’ll have a page of all of the foreign rights agents. So, when you Google “foreign rights agents,” those are all the agents that will come up, from big publishers and big literary agencies.  They include their email address on their site.  Just click on their email, and send them your email, which includes all this exciting news about your book, and offer to send them a copy of your book.  And then, wait for a response.
Note from Daniel: After this episode was posted I was talking to my long time friend and frequent joint venture partner John Kremer and he told me that he had put together a resource with a nice database of foreign language rights agents and it was only $6. Here's the information that appears on John's website: Literary, Subsidiary Rights, and Foreign Rights Agents — This mini-guide includes more than 1,425 literary agents, including 325+ agents that sell foreign rights, 400 that have sold a first novel, and another 50 or so that handle subsidiary rights sales. This mini-guide also includes a sample foreign rights book contract. Ebook download, $6.00. You can >>> grab it by clicking here <<<
Again, you can send like 100 emails, and it doesn’t cost you anything.  Just imagine if you had to pack 100 copies of your book in envelopes and mail them?  It would be a few hundred dollars right there.  This way, you send out 100 emails for free, and then you’re narrowing the interest.  The ones that are interested will write back to you, and then you can send them a copy of the book. You might be thinking, "Can’t I just offer to send these foreign rights agents a PDF?" Actually, a lot of the agents will ask for a PDF because then they can just forward it to publishers. I’ve had people write to me with this question, “When I send a PDF, am I losing control of the book?”  For example, a person sends it to a friend of theirs, “Oh, you should read this book,” and then that person sends it to 100 of their friends.  That’s my concern, and other authors have that concern also.  I mean, if you’re comfortable with it, you could send a PDF, and then you don’t have any postage cost.  My policy is that I’ll send you as many hard copies of the book as you need.

Step 4 - Receiving an Offer

The fourth step is, the agent will approach different publishers, and if they get an offer from a publisher, they’ll send it to you. Usually, what you should look at is the number of copies they’re going to print, the retail price in their market, and the royalty rate.  Often, because they’re going to translate it, there’s a cost element.  In the United States, Canada, the royalty rate might be 10%, but because we have to pay for the cost of translation, usually the royalty rate is like 6%-8%.  It just depends.  Figure out the total number of copies from the first printing, the royalty rate on the retail price, and figure out what would be the total royalties for that first printing. It’s reasonable to ask for the royalty on the first printing as an advance. Just run the figures, and that way you don’t have to pursue them for royalty payments.  If they do a second printing, they’ll have to pay you royalties again.  Also, make sure that the copyright is in your name, and just review the contract.  One thing that you have to include in the contract is that they have to publish the book within 12 months or 18 months, and if they don’t, the contract is automatically cancelled.  Because that happens sometimes. The publisher will buy their rights and then decide not to publish it.  So, it’s better to establish that if they don’t publish it within 18 months, the contract is cancelled, and you keep the advance and look for another publisher. That way, the rights aren’t granted to the publisher in perpetuity.  Also, a contract should have a term, such as 5-7 years. The contract should say “This contract expires,” and you’ll have a date of 5-7 years, whatever you decide and can negotiate with the publisher, so it’s not forever.  Also, one thing that I do is I keep these agents up to date.  If you get a good review in a newspaper or magazine, send it to them.  If you get on television, send them the link to the taping and say “Please send this to the publishers that are considering the book.” Keep them up to date.  If you make a sale in another market, tell them, “Please inform the publishers that are considering the book that I just sold rights in this other country.”  Everything is added, giving you more credibility because the publisher wants to be assured, “Hey, people will buy this book.”  If you show them that other people in other countries like the book, it carries credibility.

The In's and Out's of the Advance

The idea is, when they give you an offer, it should include the size of the first printing, the number of copies they're going to print, the royalty rate, and the retail sales price.  For example, let’s just say the book promos for $10 in the US, and they are going to print 10,000 copies, and they are going to give you a 10% royalty.  A 10% royalty on a $10 book is $1.  If they are going to print 10,000 copies, that’s $10,000.  If it were 5,000 copies, it would be $5,000.  So, that’s a reasonable amount to make as an advance for the first printing. That’s a pretty common approach, to ask for an advance, and most publishers seem to agree to that. "Can’t I just offer to send these foreign rights agents a PDF?" Oh, yes.  Absolutely.  It’s like with any negotiation in business.  When you make your first offer, they think they’re paying you too much, right?  Obviously, with any advance, if you feel like you could ask for more, ask for more.  If they come with a counter offer, maybe you just accept it. Really, when I get published, the amounts aren’t that great, usually.  I actually remember with one publisher, I figured out what the advance should be for the first printing, and I added a little more to that, just for some negotiating room.  He accepted it, and I’ll tell you, I feel like I didn’t ask for enough. Usually, the publisher makes the offer.  It’s just in that case, the publisher asked me how much I wanted and what terms I wanted.  He accepted everything, so I just felt like I didn’t ask for enough.

Step 5 - Promoting Your Book

The fifth step is, once the book gets published, they’ll send you your 10 copies.  I always offer to help them promoting your bookpromote the book in their country.  Maybe a print reporter can interview me in English and then translate it into their language.  You show that you are there to support them, and like anything, that is additional coverage you send to the agents who are still trying to sell your book.  And, all of this builds and builds. I’ve sold the rights to my book to 24 countries.  When I started this process, I said, “Well, okay.  I’ll try and see what happens.”  But really, with this process, it’s really not that difficult. Write a good book. Write an exciting email, send it out and see what happens.  If they respond, just send them the book however you want, either a hard copy or a PDF.  It’s really so much easier now than it was in the past. It’s all about getting credibility to your book in North America.  Like you, my goal in writing my book was to share these ideas. My book is about how to be a man in a relationship with a woman, and it’s showing that all the ideas people have today aren’t working, and you can see they’re not working.  So, it’s really about those traditional ideas that fathers used to teach their sons about, you have to show leadership, and make decisions, and take responsibility.  You can’t avoid these things and think you’re being such a nice guy.  And the response I get from women is they tell me, “If my husband had known this, our marriage wouldn’t have disintegrated.” My whole point is that you really try to get your ideas out into the world and make a difference.  That’s really my point.  If you want to change the world, you can go beyond North America.  You can really change the world. That’s been very rewarding for me, to see emails from people saying, “Hey, this book made a difference to me,” or “If I had had this book a year ago, my marriage wouldn’t be broken up.”  You see, we’re making a difference, and that’s part of it. In business, it’s nice to make money and be successful. But at the same time, if you’re helping people and trying to eliminate the pain of divorce and children being from broken homes, it’s very rewarding to make that kind of a difference.  And, this way, you get to share your ideas with the rest of the world.  Much to my surprise, the rest of the world was interested in my ideas because it seems like this whole generation of men aren’t really taught what a man should be.

Connecting with Elliott

I have a website.  It’s  You can email me through there.  My book is available on Amazon as a paperback, and as an eBook on Amazon Kindle, Kobo, and iBooks.  It’s also available in bookstores, but the bookstores sold out this last time I ordered.  Like I said, it’s available in 24 countries, in Europe, Asia, Latin America, and Africa, and it’s very exciting to say, “Hey, I’m making a difference around the world.”  It’s really rewarding.

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Daniel's Real Fast Results Tips: Foreign Language Rights

Here's a sample email that Elliott sends to prospective foreign language rights buyers:     Email Subject:  Foreign Language Rights Available for Being the Strong Man A Woman Wants Dear [Name of Prospective Buyer] I am a bestselling author and write to inquire about your interest in buying foreign language rights. Rights to my book Being the Strong Man A Woman Wants have already been sold in 24 countries in Europe, Asia, Latin America and Africa. The English edition is sold in the United States, Canada, Australia, Singapore and the United Kingdom. There is extensive media interest in my book and thus I have reason to believe that sales would be robust in the languages that you handle. I  been interviewed about the book on more than 200 radio and TV shows in the US, Canada and Singapore. Sample TV interview: Here is link to TV interview on Breakfast Television, the morning show with the largest audience in Canada. Winner of the USA Book News Best Books Award for books on men, the book is receiving wonderful reviews: "For all those sensitive New Age guys out there who want to improve their love lives and themselves." The Edmonton Sun "The wisdom is remarkable." The Oklahoman, Oklahoma City "Full of useful examples on how to be a better man" Clarence Bee, Buffalo NY "A minuscule investment for improving, much less saving, a marriage." Lazer Brody, Lazer Beams It's a book written for men that women buy and give it to the man in their lives and say, "This is all I have been trying to tell you all these years!" Read the reviews on Amazon -- Being the Strong Man A Woman Wants: Timeless wisdom on being a man (see The book is 128 pages and retails in the US for $12.95 US. If you'd like a reading copy, please reply with mailing address. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Elliott Katz
Review: Yes-men shirk responsibility? by Kasia Iglinkski Dating Jungle - A single woman's adventures through the dating jungle Metro newspaper, Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa, Montreal He's the guy we think we all want to date. Smart, handsome and says yes to everything — from giving us back rubs to taking out the trash. Then we date him and that wanting-to-please manner we first thought so charming makes us want to hit our heads against a wall. Instead of a straight answer to questions like where to go for dinner, we're left with a frustrating "it's up to you." He's a "yes" man, no matter how big or small the decision may be. He's whipped. We're annoyed. But it doesn't have to be that way says Elliott Katz, author of Being The Strong Man A Woman Wants. "They think they are being nice guys," says Katz on why many men leave the decisions up to women. "But what they are really doing is shirking responsibilities." Instead, both partners need to take control and deal with the challenges that occur in their relationship. Part of that ownership of a relationship comes from getting rid of that "yes dear" mentality some men have. "It's not about being domineering. Women want a guy who knows what he wants," says Katz, who came to this realization soon after his own marriage ended several years ago and he wanted to know why. His answer lead him to such sources as Dr. Benjamin Spock's philosophy that men should be leaders and models for their children. He began to understand that many men today are too passive about their relationships. "We respect people who take charge," says Katz. "We don't admire people who stand back and wait for others to solve the problem." A dating blunder Katz often hears from men is they are always asking their date where she would like to go for dinner. "Instead of asking, suggest a place," says Katz. "This shows you are capable of making a decision." What can a woman do to help her man become more decisive? Katz recommends buying his book.
Table of Contents A woman wants a strong man, by Robert A. Glover Ph.D. (author of No More Mr. Nice Guy) The story behind the journey To women reading this book: How to encourage a man to be stronger 1. If you don't lead, I can't dance 2. Being strong 3. Knowing what you want 4. Leadership 5. It's not being controlling 6. Listening 7. Being worthy 8. Being entitled 9. Taking full responsibility 10. Growing stronger 11. Being manly 12. Giving 13 Setting goals 14. Knowing what's going on 15. Think before you act 16. Making decisions 17. Watch men who are strong 18. Money 19. The big house 20. Working 21. This is what it's meant all along Key steps to becoming the stronger man a woman wants Notes
Jun 27, 2016
Jay Boyer
Welcome to the Real Fast Results podcast!  Today you’re in for a real treat.  The expert that will be sharing a bit of his knowledge with us in this edition of the broadcast is Jay Boyer, who is an incredible expert in publishing and a thought leader in his industry.  One of his major accomplishments is his ability to produce bestsellers in an incredible fashion.  Not only that, but Jay has taught thousands of people how to write, publish, and market children’s books so that they would be able to create bestselling children’s books of their very own. Jay is going to teach people how to write and publish a children’s book in the next 7 days, publish it to Amazon and drive it all the way to becoming a #1 bestseller.  

Why Writing Children's Books Excites Peoplewriting children's books

I’m constantly amazed at how this really seems to strike a chord with people.
  • This seems to be a bucket list item for lots of people. Something that they’ve always wanted to do. Write a book, a children’s book, and get it published. Get it out there, share it with the world, and share it with their grand-kids, share it with their own children.  Honestly, this is something that I didn’t know, until I did it myself and started showing students how to do this same thing.
  • Writing children's books continues to be a fantastic source of passive and recurring income. For me, personally, I did mid six-figures just with my children’s book royalties on Amazon last year. I’m on target to make even more sales this year.  Actually, I have to qualify that, mid six-figures total sales, and mid five-figures in royalties.

5 Step Overview on How to Write and Publish Children's Books

  1. Research - The first step is the exact same process that I did with my son Joe when we published our first children’s book 3 or 4 years ago.  We headed over to Amazon, and we did about 3 minutes worth of research inside of the Kindle marketplace.  We saw what was selling, and we took some ideas from certain books and combined them and added our own secret sauce.  That’s the formula of the bestselling book.
  2. Illustrations -  We filled that book with amazing illustrations. I’m no illustrator and my son’s no illustrator. Fill it up with amazing illustrations that are going to make kids go, “Wow,” and purchase your books over, and over again.
  3. Promote - Promote it on Amazon.  You can do that for free.
  4. Repeat - Repeat the process over and over again.  I have currently almost a dozen books on my number one children’s book series. That’s what makes it a sustainable business.
  5. How to keep your books showing up in the bestsellers list.

Step 1 - Research

researchThe first step is research.  This is where lots of my students go wrong, or don’t do this as completely as they should.  They have an idea in their brain. Maybe it’s a story that they’ve already thought about writing, and whether or not it’s qualified as something that’s already selling well in Amazon Kindle, is not something that crosses their mind.  But it’s absolutely essential if you want to stand the best possible chance of actually publishing this and having it go to a number one bestseller. So, what I do is I head over to Amazon.  I’m specifically in the children’s book marketplace, and I start browsing through the categories.  When I wrote my first book with Joe, I said, “Joe, what kind of book do you want to write?” He said, “Papa, I just want it to be funny.”  He wanted a book that he could share with his friends, share a laugh with me, and read on the edge of his bed.  This was when he was young enough to want to read books on the edge of his bed. I said, “So, let’s go look at funny books on Kindle.”  We headed over to the Kindle marketplace, we clicked into the humor niche. Because I’ve been doing this for a certain amount of time, I had a marketer’s eyeball, which is what I recommend that you do when you’re looking at these books inside of Kindle.  Look at them, not necessarily as a consumer, but what is trending, what sort of characters show up over and over again, what topics. If you have an animal for your main character, what are the most popular animal characters?  There’s dogs, and cats, and horses, and unicorns, and all that stuff.  This is what you want to do.  You head over there and take some notes and get some ideas for your own book. We’re not talking about ripping off a bestselling book.  We’re talking about just getting some ideas and then adding your own “secret sauce." Adding your own amazing illustrations, adding what you know, and love, and have to offer the world in combination with items that are already trending. Part of step one is to qualify what’s already trending and selling like gangbusters over in the Kindle marketplace.  Whatever it is, and whatever category appeals to you, there’s a #1 bestseller in that category right now.  G over and find it. Try connecting some other books and seeing what commonalities you find in these different titles that are already selling well over in Kindle.  So that’s step one.  Do some basic research, and you can do that in 3-5 minutes. I guarantee you’ll have a lot of fun.  If you’ve got a child, do it with them.  You may end up buying a bunch of books and reading them at a later date, but in any case, that’s step one.  Do that research. It’s important that you understand that you’re using this to springboard off of other people’s success.  You are trying to get an idea of what’s selling so that you know your book will sell, and you’re not just guessing at it.  You’re looking at characters, and topics, and demographics. I publish to the reluctant reader niche, which is 8-10 or 11-year-old boys, not exclusively though, of course.  Those sell very well. You’re going to find those books inside that big bestseller list, before you even drill down into the smaller categories.  That’s how you get some sense of how well, and chunk up the demographics, and try to think of the age group that that particular book is appealing to.

What are people doing with their book covers?

Diary of a Wimpy Kid, for exampleI modeled my book cover off of what Jeff Kinney was already doing with his Diary of a Wimpy Kid book cover. They’re really easy to do.  It’s a really easy format, and you can do that for any type of children’s book out there.  Again, you don’t copy it verbatim, obviously.  In the case of images, you just take note of the elements that you see in one successful book and use those same elements in your own. By the way, you’re not going to be the only one over there doing that either.  There are lots of people doing the exact same thing, heading over to Kindle and approaching it with a marketer’s eyeball, and saying, “Holy cow, that’s selling really well.  This is interesting.  Maybe I can expand upon that idea.  Look at this book cover design.  Wow.  Okay.  Well, I see a dozen book cover designs that look almost the exact same.”  Obviously, people know what they’re doing when they are publishing bestsellers over there, and these are some of the strategies that they’re using as well.

Step 2 - Illustrations

The second step is to populate your book with amazing illustrations that kids are going to love, that their parents arechildren's books illustrations going to love, that’s going to get them to purchase book after book after book in your series. That’s the endgame.  You want to publish as many possible books as you can.  You want to create a book series.  Someone buys book one, then they’re going to buy book two. They’re going to buy the 3rd one, the 6th one, the 8th one, and it’s probably all going to happen in the span of a Saturday afternoon.  You know, that’s just how this works.  Kids love these books, and they eat them up like Halloween Candy.

How do you get illustrations?

That seems to be a stumbling block for lots of my students, and for me as well.  I mean I am no artist.  Believe me, I couldn’t design my way out of a wet paper bag.  I hope I never have to.  I’m terrible, and if it were up to me, it would be the worst-looking children’s book ever.  Thankfully, I don’t have to be the illustrator of these books, nor my son or whoever else you’re writing these books with.  You can get world-class children’s book illustrations by amazingly talented designers over at Yes, there are lots of different outsourcing sites out there. However, I prefer to use Fiverr to find the illustrators of all my children’s books. Basically, you get a sample every time you go shopping over there on Fiverr.  There’s a thumbnail image of whatever they wanted to put up from there to represent their gig (that’s what they're called over there on Fiverr).  You can tell at a glance, “Hey, is this going to be high-quality enough?  Is this going to be funny enough?  Is this going to appeal to appeal to, you know, 3 or 4-year-old girls who love princess books?  Or, is this going to get into maybe the Captain Underpants genre?" You can tell at a glance, heading over to Fiverr, whether these are going to be appropriate.  You can check their ratings.  Of course, lots of people leave ratings, and that’s golden information.  You’re going to know if these contractors deliver on time, whether they’re nice to work with, whether the quality is actually there, etc.  All of these factors are the reasons why I go to Fiverr to find all of my children’s book illustrators. You can get an entire book illustrated for under $100 and have all of the rights moving forward, to use them in any which way that you want.

Rights to Illustrations

A common question I get is "How do I know I have the rights to the illustrations." Actually, Fiverr’s terms of service state that you have rights to all output that you’re purchasing, all the content that you’re buying, whatever gigs that the contractors are creating for you. Fiverr’s terms of service say that you have rights to all of that, unless it’s stated otherwise in the gig description.  And, you’ll see that.  It’ll say, “If you want to use this for an eBook, it’s going to cost another $5,” etc. Most illustrators don’t do that.  Either they don’t know that they can or should be doing that, or maybe they’re just like, “Okay. This is yours and I don’t care.”  Unless it’s stated in that gig description, unless there are any intends, or any other language stating otherwise, you own those illustrations and the rights to those illustrations. You can do whatever you want with them, in terms of commercial rights moving forward. It might be a good idea to double check with whoever you decide on, and make sure that they know this is “work for hire”.  These are sort of magical legal words in this game, and if you use those words in an agreement, then it shows that whatever work is done for you is something that you own.  Then, you also have the terms of service in addition to that to back you up.  However, in most cases this isn’t an issue.  Honestly, it’s never been an issue for me at all with any of the illustrators that I use. I actually don’t tell Fiverr.  I pull them off of Fiverr, and let them know, “Hey, if we’re going to be doing some work on several books…” yeah, it absolutely makes sense to send them a little contract.  Send it via email, and all they need to do is reply and say, “Yes, I understand…” or “I agree”.  That’s… contractually, that’s all that you need.  If you’re doing any sort of work out of Fiverr, I recommend it, and it’s also a good idea if you’re doing work inside of Fiverr.

Step 3 - Publish

publishing children's booksThe next step is to publish the darn thing.  Usually, my students want to know, “So, how does this come together in manuscript format?”  The answer to that is it’s super-easy.  I just use MS Word.  You can use any sort of word-processing document that you want.  Add the images that you got from your Fiverr illustrator as JPG images inside. It's just a running Word document. Separate it by chapters.  Chapter one--just put some page breaks in between the chapters.  Keep your chapter short. Even if you’re writing for an older audience, even if you are writing for an older child. All of my books are for 8-10-year-old boys.  Keep those chapters short. I used to write them myself, and now I just outsource all of the writing.  I tell my writers, “Hey, anywhere between 100 and 200 words per chapter, followed by an illustration.”  So, I end up having maybe a dozen and a half short, bite-sized mini chapters, followed by an illustration, and another 150 words, followed by an illustration. Usually they end up being anywhere between 3,000 to 5,000 words total, for my demographic, which is, again, older kids.  But, keep those chapters short.  Keep them bite-sized.  It keeps the pages turning, and they are a lot easier to write that way as well. That’s it.  Simply format the book, submit it to Kindle.  You can do that in 30 minutes, even if you’ve never done it before, and you are in business.  One secret weapon that I do recommend is to put a free offer in your book.

Publishing Tip - Put a Free Offer in Your Book

This is what I call my secret weapon. That free offer leads to an audiobook. Here’s what I do. On the second orchildrens books - secret third page, right before the table of contents, I say, “Hey, if you want an audio version of this book, click this link.”  The cool thing about a Kindle reading device is that you can actually click on a live link and it will open up in a browser anywhere. People can leave you their name and address in exchange for a 20 to 25-minute audiobook.  An audiobook can simply comprise of you reading the book.  You can use a simple word-processing program like Audacity.  All you need to do is render it into an MP3, and you can save it to DropBox. You just deliver a Dropbox link to your customers for the free audiobook version and:
  1. that adds a ton of value to your book,
  2. it sets you apart from everyone else who are publishing the same types of books out there, and
  3. you are creating your number one asset in the world, which is an email list of subscribers. People who know you, who love you, who buy every book and can’t wait for you to publish the next one.  And, when you do end up publishing the next book, all you need to do is send a single email to your list.
I have, at this point, 5,000 or 6,000 subscribers. These are people who have bought the book and wanted the audiobook as well.  I just send a single email out, and I get hundreds of people buying my brand new book, which pushes it to a number one bestseller. That’s the secret sauce, and that’s what I recommend everybody do if they’re publishing to children’s books, or any sort of book to the Kindle marketplace. Just try to find something of value that’s relevant to the book itself, that people would be willing to give you their name and email address for. You can start building your own list in any niche under the sun in the same way. If you’re not publishing for the children’s book niche, if you’re publishing to a non-fiction, how-to niche, that’s how you build your tribe so you can sell to them.  Once they are on your email list you can develop a relationship with them. You can sell them other cool stuff and content. You can jump on a Google Hangout. You can put other offers in front of them.  This is how they ascend up your value ladder.  They come in at a free offer, and maybe they buy a $27 information product from you after that, or a $97, or maybe a webinar product, or who knows?  A live event, or some high-ticket coaching.  That’s how it works, and that’s the power of building a list of any kind. That’s why I consider it to be my number one asset. You’ve got your #1 bestselling book with your free offer (don't forget the secret sauce).  Take a little seal or sticker that says "# 1 Bestselling" and put it on your book cover image. Moving forward, that’s tremendous social proof. That’s one more reason for people to buy your book, as opposed to someone else’s book, by putting a #1 bestselling book sticker on the book cover.  It's a graphic that you can find anywhere. Maybe other people are browsing on Amazon, and they see all of these covers, but they see your cover with this bestselling book sticker on the front of it, and they’re like, “Oh, it says it’s bestselling.  It must be good.”

Step 4 - Repeat

That’s the strategy. Then, after that you’ve got some social proof, you’ve got previous customers, you’ve got people on your subscriber base, and you’re generating recurring passive income through the sales of that same book.  It would make a lot of sense to publish a similar book to the very same book series.  So, you have not just one book for people to read, but you can be linking out and cross-promoting these books in the back of your book like I do.  I put all of them in the back of my books. Every time I publish a book I add another link to that list of books in the back. So, when people finish that book, I say “Hey, do you like this crazy, funny kids book?  I have seven or eight more that you can purchase.” They can click on those links and actually head on over to the Amazon marketplace purchase the next one right off the bat.  That's how you turn this from a hobby into a business.  That’s why I have all of these cross-promoting books out there in the marketplace.  They’re all #1 bestsellers, and I have raving fans. I have people that write me letters. Kids write me letters, parents write me letters, teachers write me letters because, for whatever reason, they enjoy these books. If kids don’t even want to read any other books, these are books that they want to read because they’re fun, they’re kind of gross-out, they’re madcap, they have crazy illustrations, etc.  In any case, I get emails all of the time from people responding to that free offer. They say, “I loved your book.  This is fantastic.  When are you going to write the next one?”  And then, it’s just like, “Well, I’ve got the next one coming out in the next three weeks.  I’ll send you a link.”  That’s it.  Just rinse and repeat.

Step 5 - How to Keep Your Children's Books Showing Up on the Bestsellers List

best selling bookOf course I have seasonal books. I have the one that I promote in December, when I pull Santa Clause into the story.  I have one that I start promoting when football season ends, and it has to do with my main character joining the football team.  I have one that I promote during Halloween, in October, because it’s about some spooky, scary monsters. So, that’s another, sort of, overlay of the very same strategy, and what I like to do. I suppose this is step 5.  How do you continue to have your books showing up over and over again on the bestsellers list?  I have several books that have been #1 best sellers in their categories for years and years and years. Here’s one reason why.  A great way to actually get brand new visitors, brand new book buyers to these books, outside of the Amazon marketplace, is to go to a website called  For, I think it’s $120, you can have them send out an email to all of their children’s book subscribers.  I think, at this point, there’s over half a million emails going out every time I purchase a promotion like this, for $120. They send an email out to over half a million children’s book buyers that are looking for daily deals. Sometimes I generate 800 or 900 new sales in a single day for these books. Of course, that increases the visibility of not just that book, but all of the other books, by virtue of the fact that I’m promoting them all together, cross-promoting all of them inside of the book.  So, every time I do that, I get a spike of not just those book sales in the Amazon marketplace, I get not only more visibility, and I’m showing up on the bestseller list. Last time I did this, I ended up as the #2 bestselling book of all children’s books inside of Kindle.  It’s very amazing, and of course, I see a spike of all of my other books as a result of that.

Learn More from Jay

I have a training program, and you can learn more about it at  The “CBF” stands for Children’s Book Formula, which is a very successful program that has helped many people get published and even become bestsellers.  This is a course that I had created on the heels of my #1 children’s book bestseller.  I had people contacting me like, “Jay, can you please just show me how to… I want to write a #1 best selling children’s book.”  I had no idea that this was such a bucket list item, but it’s absolutely the case. I have had thousands of students come through this program, most of which have never published a children’s book before. Some of which have gone on to be even more successful than I have been.  I have one student who last year was in the KDP newsletter.  That’s the Kindle Direct Publishing newsletter.  They send it out to all Kindle publishers.  She was featured as one of the bestselling authors in the entire marketplace. I was totally blown away when she sent me that.  She said, “It’s all because of you, and it’s all because of the course.  This would never have been available to me otherwise.”  I just feel super grateful, if that’s the case, that I have been able to make a difference in other people’s lives with this training.  It continues to be, for that and other reasons, my best selling program that I have ever created and launched. The best way to get in touch with me is to go to my JJ Fast Webinars Facebook page.  There you can get information about CBF and other training programs that I offer.

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Jun 23, 2016
Lance TamashiroWelcome to the Real Fast Results podcast!  Podcasting is such a special medium to use, and it is especially effective when you’re trying to build an audience for yourself and your business.  That’s what Lance Tamashiro is going to discuss during this episode.  You’ll really enjoy this if podcasting is of any interest to you at all because Lance does really well when it comes to demystifying this process.  He has a way of making it all so much easier than you ever would have thought possible. Lance has risen far up the charts, and it didn’t take him very long to do this.  He’s right up there with the likes of Pat Flynn, John Lee Dumas, and Gary Vaynerchuck.  So, who better to take advice from?  Without further ado, please welcome Lance Tamashiro.

Podcasting the Right Way

Today, we’re going to discuss a couple of items. First of all, I want to tell people how to get their own podcast set up, but I think that’s the easy part.  I think the whole thing that holds people up is this idea of perfection, this idea of enough content, and the best way to get that done.  My goal for today would be:
  1. Make sure that people know what they need to do in order to get their podcast up,
  2. Know that whatever you have, whatever point that you’re at, the most important thing is to get this thing up and running.
Just remember that you’ll get better, and you’ll do better as we go.  So, I think, you know, the mindset stuff and also the step-by-step in getting there.

Why You Should Have a Podcast – Easy Content

podcastingFor me, I started a podcast, and it got ranked up high pretty quickly.  That’s true and false at the same time.  I don’t want to mislead people because I actually started my podcast, I think back in 2012.  What I did was, I did three episodes.  One was like two minutes long, one was like 10 minutes long, and you can go see; they are still out on iTunes. I thought, “I don’t get it… I don’t understand why I’m doing this,” so I did nothing, and then in 2013, I said, “I’m going to do this podcasting thing!”  I did three or four episodes.  They are still out there, and you can go [listen] to them, and they did nothing.  The same happened every year. I would promise myself that I was going to do this podcast. I run a mastermind group, and I offhandedly said, “January of this year, and we’re filming this in 2016.” A couple of months ago I said, “My New Year’s resolution is that I’m going to do a podcast once a month.” I said that it was my resolution because I always break my resolution, so I knew this still wasn’t going to work.  So, I started doing this, and I stumbled on this other way of doing it, this other way of making content.  More importantly, other people that I was able to connect with, that promoted my podcast, ended up shooting it to the top.  Now I’m doing three, four podcasts every single week, and I’ve been as high as #9 in the overall “Business” category.  I’m usually between 40 and 20; it fluctuates up and down.  But, there’s a couple of things that really came out of it for me:
  1. They are really easy to do, if you do it the way that I do it.
  2. It gets you exposure to a lot of people that you would have never gotten before.
You know, [we’re] from the internet marketing world, where it’s like pulling teeth.  You call someone up, and you’re like, “Will you promote me? Let me figure something out,” and nobody wants to do it, but suddenly you have a podcast, and everyone wants to promote you.  I mean, I’ve had guys like Tucker Max promote me. I’ve had a New York Times bestseller. I’ve had guys like [Daniel Hall] promote me.  It’s a whole different thing when they’re creating the content, and it makes it easy for you. You get to be the guy saying, “How do I do something cool that you know how to do?” I’m not a good joint venture guy.  It’s always awkward for me to meet somebody and try to figure out how to do a joint venture. However, I’ve found that the podcasts, first of all, give them a reason to contact you.  So, they’re coming to you and saying, “I want to be on your show.”  Then, what happens is, you do about five minutes of getting to know each other, but there’s not a lot of time before the podcast, so then you do the interview… where a weird thing happens. After 20-30 minutes of talking back and forth, with no expectations, framed around this podcast, you’ve suddenly, in a weird way, built this rapport with them. You know details about them. It’s like at the bar, guys come up to you at a conference, and they go, “Let me tell you about me.”  It changes that whole dynamic.  What I loved about that part is that afterwards, there’s a built-in follow-up. There’s built-in reasons to keep a conversation going with somebody, whether it is a “thank you for being on the show”… that’s one where you can keep that conversation going.  I do a thing where I’ll get transcripts made and then send them out to them, which is another reason I get to keep talking to them.  And then, the show is live and I’m promoting it now, so you’ve got all of these touch points where you are able to contact somebody, and you’re truly doing something for them every step of the way.  You know, I’ve had people send me stuff in the mail, send books, send emails to their list. And, that was the big eye-opening thing for me, it was… Yeah, it’s great to have a top-ranked podcast. Yes, you get traffic to all the things that you promote.  Yes, you can get sponsorships. Yet, it was that joint venture and those connections in places that I never even thought of before.  I thought my niche was this little, tiny thing, and it turns out there are people all over that are interested in my products and services.

How to Create a Podcast

It’s really simple.  People thought that it was such a hard thing for so long.  Literally, what you need is a WordPress create a podcastsite to start.  People will talk about these services like Libsyn, which is a podcast hosting site.  They are good to have, down the road as you get bigger; you don’t need it to just get started.  The next thing you need is headphones.  I mean, I started with a $25 Logitech USB headset. I just plugged it in and started talking to myself. Then you need something to record with.  I used Camtasia Studio at the time because it was just something that I already had.  I could record two sides of a conversation.  I used that because it’s what I already had. Basically, you just set up a blog and get a plug-in called PowerPress.  It’s free, and what that will do, is it just puts a player on your blog.  You upload the MP3 to it, and it starts to play.  Then, all you have to do is go to Google Play.  If you search “Google Play Podcasts”, it will come up where you can submit what’s called “the feed”.  The PowerPress plug-in gives you that feed, so you just put that in, and the Google Play and Google Plus will pull it up.  You’ll be in their directory. Then you just click “Submit”.  It submits the podcast in iTunes and to Google. A site will come up, and then you put that same feed into them.  Once you do that, anytime you put a new podcast on your blog as a separate post, it automatically pushes out to all of these different directories.  It’s the simplest, easiest way to get started.  The hardest part, for most people, is to start making the recordings and making the content.

Recording a Podcast Is Not as Hard as You Think

First of all, you hear all of these podcasts like mine.  If you need some motivation for a crappy podcast that does well, go listen to mine.  I’m not a great speaker, I don’t have anything planned. I bought my intro music off of Fiverr, and I just use that.  And, that’s it.  Even when I started, I didn’t even know what I was going to say.  If you listen to my first episodes, it’s usually just me rambling on.  What I like about doing the interview model, which is what I do now, is that I don’t have to say anything. Literally, what happens, in the way that I do it, is that somebody comes to me and says, “I want to be on your podcast.” I say, “Give me your bio.”  I read their bio, pretty much word-for-word as they give it to me, and then I say, “How did you get started with…”. Then they start talking through it, and I say, “Well that’s awesome.  What would you tell somebody that’s just getting started?”  Then, they tell me, and I say “What’s a big mistake that they make?”  That’s it.  I mean, that’s the formula. In 20 or 30 minutes, if you ask those questions, if you think about it, it gives them the story or what they did. It tells somebody new what they should be doing, and it tells somebody new what mistakes to avoid. You’re done and out of there, and you don’t have to say anything, other than ask those three questions.  You’ll get more comfortable as you go, and I would say just get started. Grab somebody you know. Daniel Hall and Jason Parker were the first two people that I interviewed on my podcast. It was easy for me because I knew you guys. I say, grab somebody you know off of Facebook. Grab somebody you talk to on Skype, and start there and build up that confidence, and then move on.  But, you’re going to find, “Oh, it’s just talking to somebody…” once you get started.

Recap of What You Need to Start a Podcast

start a podcastYou set up a WordPress site. You buy a domain name. Set it up with your hosting account and put WordPress on it.  Then, the only plug-in that you need is called PowerPress.  It’s free, so you can put a theme on there if you want. However, you don’t have to because what you’re really trying to do is to get it out into the directories--into iTunes and Google Play.  You just have the basic theme on there, put PowerPress on there. What PowerPress does is, when you make a new post, it will add a section below the post where you upload your MP3 file.  So, you upload your MP3 file, and that puts the post out there.  You have to do that before you can submit to the directories. Make that first post with some kind of audio on it. Then you search on Google for either “Google Play Podcasts”, or “iTunes Podcasts”. The third one you want to do is Stitcher.  So, you’ve got Stitcher, Google Play, and iTunes, these are kind of the big three. Inside of the PowerPress plug-in, it gives you a link that says, “This is your podcast URL.”  When you go to those directories, they’ll have a website if you Google them, all you have to do is paste that URL that the PowerPress plug-in gives you in your blog. You paste it in, and basically, what that URL does is every time you add a new post, it tells all of these directories, “Hey, there’s something new.  Add it to your directory.”  Now, any time you want to make a new one, you just make a brand new post, upload it into your PowerPresss plug-in, which is underneath your post settings, and it automatically, magically shows up everywhere that you wanted it to show up.  And, literally, that’s all you have to do to get started with your podcast. After that, the big thing is to decide how you’re going to do your show.  I mean, is it going to be multiple people; is it going to be just you?  When I started, it has been just me talking, whenever I had an idea of something that I wanted to talk about.  Well, now because the show’s there, people contact me constantly to be on the show. Because it’s ranked, they find it inside of iTunes.  Contact all of the people you know and just say, “I want to interview you.  I want to get you on, and it’s 20-30 minutes, it’s a piece of cake…” You just record it and put it up there. I don’t do any editing.  If you listen to mine, there were times when people have dropped out, and I just finish up the conversation.  There’s been times when my son has walked in, in the middle, and I just kind of talk to him.  For me, it’s kind of about personality.  It depends on what you want to have on your show, but I don’t want to spend a bunch of time editing.  You can if you want.  There’s also services that will do it for you.  If you’re just getting started, the important part is to get it out there. Because, if you want to start getting bigger guests, what they want to see is that you’re actually doing it.  So, if you have 10 episodes under your belt, they are more likely to say “yes” than if you’re not even listed. It’s really easy.  I have had a few people in the internet marketing space, when I was first getting started, that kind of blew me off.  Now they all want to be on the show because they know how much traffic it’s getting.  So, when you get started, it’s one of those things where, get some episodes out there, and most people will automatically say “yes”.  Now, here’s the big thing.  If you want to get guests easy, go to Amazon, find all of the authors inside of your niche, it doesn’t matter what your niche is, and contact them.  There is no author that will not do a book promotion.  You talk to them about their topic, talk to them about their book and you can fill up your schedule as quickly as you want to.

Podcast Cover Art

Honestly, when I launched mine, I didn’t have cover art.  What I ended up doing, is I took a picture of me and my daughter, went on to Pixlr and put in  words.  I just put “Lance Tamashiro Show” on it.  I mean, you can see it.  It’s just a picture of me and my daughter with the words on the bottom.  I didn’t overthink it.  However, now they want the size to be either 2,000 x 2,000 or 3,000 x 3,000. Again, you just upload that to PowerPress, and they take care of everything for you.  This plug-in really does do everything.  You know, if you walk through the setup of the plug-in, they have it by menus, and you just fill everything in, you’re good to go.  And, I think they even have the links now for Google Play and iTunes to send you to the place that you want to go. If you want to have a cool setup, I would say go to and just search “podcast art”.  There will be a bunch of people that come up.  Just pay them $5 or $10, get that thing made, and don’t even think about it.  And, even with mine, that’s where I got my intro made.  I went in and typed in “podcast intro music”.  The first guy that came up, I hired him, and he did my intro and outro. I think it cost me $20 total, and then I was done.  You don’t even have to think about it.  I do my recording, and then I go back and I stick that at the front, and then the back, and then I’m done. I kind of think the intro music is distracting.  I mean, that’s the big thing.  I’ve been going back and listening to the other top podcasts, and most of them it’s like five seconds with them just talking into it. So my thought at this point is, “I’m going to pull that out, or at least just really strip it back,” because I mean, that’s not what it’s about. It’s about the information that you’re going to give to people, and the guests that you have on.

Podcast Tips

If you have a podcast that no one listens to, do you really have a podcast?  I mean, that’s the big questionpodcast tips with all podcasting.  It’s, “How do I get subscribers?  How do I get listeners?  How do I get people on?”  So, the first thing is if you’re starting from scratch, here is what I did. I had a dead Twitter account that I never used.  I hadn’t made a tweet on it since like 2010.  So, I had this Twitter account, and I’m thinking, “Alright.  I’ll just use this and see what happens.”  I found this software.  It’s a website called  What it does, is it basically can make a list of tweets, and it will just tweet them over and over again, as much as you want. So, what happened was, one of the guests on my podcast said to me, “The average lifespan of a tweet is 45 minutes.”  So, if you tweet every 45 minutes, it’s not like Facebook where people are going to get mad at you.  It’s not like email.   You’re allowed to tweet every 45 minutes and nobody cares.  So, I found this thing that’s basically an auto-responder.  Now, every time I have a new show, I put that into my “auto-responder”, my auto-tweet, called eClincher. I set it to run every 45 minutes, or 60 minutes, and it just cycles through.  When I started at like 10 episodes, it just cycled through every 45 minutes, making those tweets go out, and then I just add a new one. Here’s the key that I did.  Every guest that I had on, I would tag them. You’ve probably seen this on Twitter. You see that every day.  You see I’m promoting it, and you’re likely to like it, or re-tweet, or whatever, so your people see it.  But, then what I do is I use the hashtag.  So, I use #podcast almost always. My podcast is business-related and entrepreneur, so I use #business and #entrepreneur.  My Twitter account was, just from doing that, 200-300 followers a day. Just from tweeting that thing out.  I mean, constantly tweeting those things out. However, you’ve got high-profile people that re-tweet it every day because they like it and because you’re promoting them.  It doesn’t cost them anything; they are there anyway. It keeps you in their heads.  I mean, you’re never going to forget that you were on my show because every time you log into Twitter, you’re going to see X-number of tweets from me promoting it.  Again, having guests for me is what blew up really fast because I couldn’t believe how willing people were to tweet about it, to Facebook about it, to email about it.  I mean, people with massive, massive followings. If I were to have approached them and said, “Hey, email for my product.  Let’s do a webinar.”  They would have said, “No way,” but because it was this podcast, they were all willing to do that. I attribute a huge amount of the growth and success of my podcast to that because, I’ve got a pretty big mail list, and I’ve got a pretty big following, but I rarely, I mean maybe twice, I’ve sent out emails about my podcast.  So, this grew without me being involved.  It was all pretty much my guests. Here’s probably the biggest tip that I got from doing this, about getting guests, and getting high profile, and growing this thing fast.  For me, I always thought of myself as in the internet marketing space. I found out I wasn’t, especially for my podcast.  Let’s say you’re in the dog training niche.  You’re not in the dog training niche for your podcast.  You’re in the animal-whatever niche. If you want to focus on dogs, that’s fine, but here’s where I think people are missing the boat.  They start saying like, “Well, I’m a dog trainer so I’m just going to train about this type of dog.”  What they need to do is contact places like the Humane Society.  They need to contact places like Purina, places that make dog toys, and the reason is all of these people have a huge following on social media.  The second thing is that they all have PR departments that are set up just to get out PR and get their word out.  So they will do an interview with you, if they see you have a podcast.  And then, three, that gives you a lot of credibility to say, “Hey, the guy from Purina was on my show.  Why don’t you be on my show,” or “the guy from the Humane Society was, why don’t you?” They will all promote it.  These big companies will all post it onto their Facebook pages.  Don’t think of yourself as in this small, little microcosm niche.  Think about how big you can blow it up, which is the opposite of what we hear in online business.  People say, “Pick your little niche and do that”.  That’s fine, but for your podcast, there’s only 10 broad categories in iTunes. Pick one of those, and that’s your niche. Then start thinking about what companies, what big players you can go to. Most of them have big PR departments, and they are just looking for places to get their message out and will promote you.

Connecting with Lance

The easiest way is to go to iTunes and type in Lance Tamashiro.  That would be a great way.  The other thing is, if you’re interested in podcasting, setting up something similar to what we’re doing here today, you can check out the PodcastCrusher training.  It’s basically a step-by-step course that lets you look over our shoulders as we set up an actual podcast that we started from scratch, and you can watch and see how that’s been growing as well.


Lance's PodcastCrusher Course (I bought this  and use it myself) - PodcastCrusher Course Podcast Plugin - PowerPress Podcast Hosting SiteLibsyn Photo EditorPixlr Social Media Management Tool - eClincher Lance Tamashiro PodcastMarketing, Entrepreneurship, Productivity & Results Podcast Cover Podcast Platforms: Stitcher Google Play

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Daniel's Real Fast Results Tips: Podcasting

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  • Make sure you have a good microphone.

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Jun 18, 2016
Marlon Sanders Welcome to another episode of the Real Fast Results Podcast. I'm so pleased you are here!  I have a very special treat for you. I have a good friend and a mentor of mine, Mr. Marlon Sanders, on the line. We are going to talk about something that's really important for the longevity of your business--that is creating evergreen products. In other words, information products that sold five years ago, ten years ago, and they'll sell fifteen years into the future. They are evergreen. These are great types of products to focus on within your business. Not only will your product be evergreen, but the potential to sell that product and profit from that product long-term also exist. I'm all about leveraging your time and your efforts to get the most bang out of the least amount of effort. Focusing on evergreen types of products, are a really great way to do that.  And a master of this is Marlon Sanders.

Why Evergreen Products?

Here's the thing that people need to know: We all got into this business because we would rather trade ourEvergreen - create products for money than we would our own personal time. However, if you have to keep creating new products in order to do that, you're kind of in a rat race. It's like being on a treadmill because you created the product, you launched it, two weeks later the sales are dead and now you're having to create another product. I'm not criticizing that, but imagine this. This is a future state. Imagine that you have a product that you created ten years ago and you're still getting paid for it. You have a product you created five years ago and you're still getting paid for that. You have a product you created six years ago, you're still getting paid for it. That's the beauty of evergreen products. Because now:
  •  you can relaunch them
  • if you set them up right, these products can sell literally for years
Product creation itself has changed because the market has morphed and changed. Trying to combine launches today and having a successful launch today with an evergreen product, that's a little bit of a trick. Those are the topics that we want to discuss today. I want t break it down as much as I can.

Step By Step Overview On How To Create Evergreen Products

We'll review the steps in brief and then detail each one.
  1. Step number one is to find timeless topics. If you're doing a topic that is going to be dramatically different six months from now, then it's going to be really hard to have that as an evergreen product. Nonetheless, there are certain topics that are incredibly timeless.
  2. Step number two is nailing the product format. What format do you deliver on, that allows it to sell long-term? This is something that's really huge and it's something most people don't know and don't do.
  3. Step number three is what's selling today? How do you combine this with what you can launch today and what's selling today?
Those are the three basic steps that we'll break down into more detail.

Step 1 - Timeless Topics

Technology Topic Concerns

One of the things that sort of comes to mind for some people is, "Well, what if I'm in a tech industry or what if I'm in some industry that doesn't necessarily lend itself well to an evergreen topic?" I believe that in just about every industry you're going to find topics that are more evergreen than others. It's all relative, and we'll compare it to a chess game.

Static Advantage

In chess, when you study the theory of chess, there are advantages during a game that are called static. Meaning they'll last the whole chess game. It's a static advantage, right? You're up a rook. It's a static advantage. They're not getting a rook back. You're up a rook the whole rest of the game. That's a static advantage. It stays the same. Not forever in chess, but for that game that you're playing.

Dynamic Advantage

Then you have dynamic advantages. A dynamic advantage in chess is when you have it right now on the board. Their pawn is backwards. There's an open file that you can seize. There's a combination you can take advantage of. That is a changeable dynamic, very short-term advantage. The thing is that the game that you play with tech topics, is more like chess. The nature of that game is shorter than the game. Maybe it's in internet marketing, but you still have static plays within whatever the parameters of that game are. That's how I would look at that, and I would try to identify the things within the tech field that are more static than they are dynamic. Another idea to mention to people who have the "tech topic" as a concern is, "What is the variable in this puzzle that doesn't change?" Generally that's a human being. If there's some aspect of your product that deals with human psychology, human behavior, human looks, anything like that, those tend to be more evergreen topics. As a machine, humans don't change from generation to generation like computers do.

Finding Timeless Topics

Evergreen - timelessIt's amazing how much things change and how much they don't change. If you study books and magazines from the very early 1900's, there are ads  and products you could take from then, that would still sell today. It's amazing how much things don't change. For example, back in the early 1900's a popular product was about memory. You would think that today with iPhones and iPads that people wouldn't still buy memory courses, memory training and memory books, but guess what? They do. You go down to Barnes and Noble. You go to the self-help section, and what are you going to find books on? How to improve your stupid memory. They were selling that in the 1800's. You pick up that book on how to improve your memory, and the methods in it were invented around the 1700's. It's the same method. You go back and you study. You think, "This is the same stuff." They probably taught it better in the 1700's. It's amazing how much things change and how much they're the same. Character analysis back then was a big thing. Analyzing people, analyzing people using many of the same exact methods, very similar to the way they are taught today. There are so many more. The subject of motivation. Hypnosis. Great in the 1800's and 1900's about hypnosis. My friend still sells the hypnosis stuff today. Joe Vitale and Steven Jones sell more hypnosis audios than you can fathom. There isn't anything new about it. They've been doing hypnosis since the 1900's and before. Another piece to look at is what are things that have sold long-term? How about analysis? Selling analysis. People have been buying personality analysis, business analysis, literally since the early 1900's. What's an analysis? What's the value of an analysis? An analysis is going to be evergreen. People perceive value in an analysis. There are all of these timeless topics, and yet within them obviously things are updated and changed, so you're living in both worlds. You have a foot in the past and a step in the present and kind of a third foot going into the future. Or, eyes going into the future. In step one we're hitting on the evergreen topics. Yet, you're also trying to get in touch with what aspects of those topics people are wanting to buy now. If they don't want to buy it right now, then it's not going to sell. Therefore, it's updated with current angles and so forth. It's still something that's going to sell over time. There's a bit of a balance there and a bit of an art. On a side note, if you're looking for evergreen topics and evergreen content within your niche, make sure to download show number two: Publishing And Profiting From Public Domain Content With Tony Laidig. I think we all understand step one, Marlon. Let's jump into step number two.

Step 2 - Product Format

The format is important when selling evergreen products! In general, PDFs are a tough format to sell long-term. I Evergreen - product formatdon't have a lot of PDFs that I wrote ten years ago that sell well today. It's a very controversial topic and people have an awful lot of opinions about them. Some people say, "Oh, don't worry about them." All I know is PDF products struggle to sell long-term and I don't know why. Dan Kennedy said one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard, and here's what he said, "Don't produce your info product in a format people can compare." Now, I'm talking about the item you're selling for money. Obviously, a Kindle book is a Kindle book and you're using it to generate new customers, probably not as much for profit. I'm talking about your moneymaker. Don't make your moneymaker something that people can easily compare it to. In other words, if you know anything about Dan Kennedy and buy something, he might include some books, checklists, some templates, some conference calls, or even just his old simple products. Dan Kennedy wouldn't just sell you a book. It would be a manual with this ugly thing stuck in it with cassette tapes popped into there. Then some other sheets and items stuffed in a big nine by twelve envelope. How do you compare the value of this with someone else's info product? Another format is example is, Dan Sullivan. Dan teaches people in all kinds of industries to create and sell processes instead of products. It's one of the most profound things I've heard. He'll take somebody in a really difficult commodity type industry. Let's take a financial planner. If you ask, "Well, what's the difference between Johnny and Jimmy financial planner?" Most people would just scratch their heads and say, "I don't know. They both, what? Give you a plan?" Dan Sullivan teaches how to create this process with these steps. They have these fancy graphics created for it and give it this name, like, "The Parents' Easy Transition Process," to easily transition your finances when your parents are elderly. It would teach them to create a process, create illustrations and diagrams and put a name on it. Now how does someone compare the value of that to the value of a Kindle book, a course or a PDF they'd buy on the internet? I have a treasure box that's actually a card file, like a Rolodex. I write my ideas in there because I'm scared if I stick them on my iPad or iPhone it'll crash and I'll just lose them all. I still trust index cards. The point of this is let's say you bought a product and I shipped you this little thing of index cards with notes on them. What's the value of that? That's the reason I do dashboards. I created the dashboard format. A few people have done dashboards, but there's not very many. What's the value of a dashboard? The value of a dashboard is what I tell you it is and what you feel it's worth.

Product Platform - Planners

Evergreen products, here's a great idea. Planners. I don't care what niche you are in, people love planners. It's the weirdest thing. They just sell. People love buying planners. It's great. It's a repeat business because they use them (take a look at show 4: Profiting From Low and No-Content Books With Kristen Joy). Grant Cardone sells so many of his 10X Planners that it's insane. He's got a place where you write your appointments for the day and then a place where you brainstorm your goals. Evergreen products contain information that you can't easily compare. Information that has perceived value over time. I did a planner just because I knew that every year when people get on the planner thing, they're going to be buying a planner. What I learned about planners is the simpler the better. And don't forget, people love workbooks as well.

Product Platform - Dashboards

I want to just spend a moment here, Marlon, because you're known far and wide for your dashboard type of products.  I love your dashboard products. I first knew of you by buying your dashboard products. And really, when I was a pup in this industry, it was you, Marlon, that really helped me along. Not you, directly, but your products. I'm eternally grateful to you because they were so doggone easy to use and attractive. I knew what I needed. I needed to follow along the top row, then go to the next row and follow along that, and it was just all right there and very easy to use. I'm going to recommend to you, if you haven't yet bought one of Marlon's dashboard products, I like the marketing one. Well, I like them all. I own practically every one of them. Thanks, Daniel! We have Traffic Dashboard. People are always going to need traffic. We have Info Product Dashboard. That helps you create Info Products, and as long as people are buying information that's going to be the product that sells. We have one called the Marketing Dashboard because, hey, people are always going to be wanting to market. Big Ticket Dashboard is the most recent one. Daniel, is probably most important for you community because I see some of your people sell consultations on the back-end of their products.

Evergreen Point

There's an evergreen point here, which is that people love information broken down step by step. Systematic, step by step. Here's something you don't know. You know, the magazine, Newsweek, wasn't always called Newsweek. In the early 1900's, the magazine sold more advertising than any other magazine in America. It literally had a hundred pages of advertising. The magazine was about three hundred pages long every month. It was called "The System." It documented the systems used by the largest businesses in America in the day. It's the most phenomenal magazine ever published in the history of the United States and probably the history of the world. It was an amazing magazine by A.W. Shaw who was a brilliant guy. Around 1923 (give or take a few years) Newsweek bought it because they were the ones selling all the advertising and Newsweek wanted to be a part of that. So, Newsweek bought and assimilated the magazine. The point is, you want to build step by step systems into your products. People eat it up. They can't get enough of it, and they love it. Dashboards are just a way to create a product that people can't easily compare the price and value, and it breaks it down step by step.

Step 3 - What's Selling Today

Evergreen - salesWhat's selling today? That's really the third part of evergreen products. Not every evergreen product is going to be a good launch product or sell today. Launches have changed. When I launched Big Ticket Dashboard I added a small piece of software as a bonus and found out that people eat up software like it's Oreo cookies or something. People just cannot get enough software right now. If you can add, even as a bonus, some kind of software element today, especially if you're launching, affiliates love it. Like JVZoo. They love promoting as the "product of the day" items that has a software element to it. You've got to look at what's evergreen, but it has to be combined with what's selling now/today. It's a bit of a balance. Nobody said being an entrepreneur was always easy. To get both of those things happening can take talent and brains and it's why we get paid instead of a computer. Otherwise, a computer would just assemble stuff, assemble a sales letter and launch it.

Having Software Created

Here's a great question: "What if you don't know how to create software or don't even feel comfortable talking to a programmer?" Talking to programmers can be challenging because they have a language of their own. Here's what you do.When I did Push Button Letters, which is a software program that's been selling since 2001. It cost me about $350 in 2001 to have it created. I don't know how much of it I've sold, but it's been a lot. It's great software. My point is, I wrote out everything in enormous detail. Now, your more sophisticated people, especially stuff that has a GUI, a graphical user interface, they go into Photoshop, usually. However, some of them use Balsamiq or other programs, and they map out their user interface, They basically use a specs doc. For every little button on the GUI, that matches up to a document that explains the functionality of that button for the programmer. You spec it out in extreme detail. The people I know that are successful getting programming done, that's what they do. They leave as little to imagination as they can. They do the GUI interface and they spec out every single function: what it is, what it does, purpose of it, etc. Now, in my case the software I included with Big Ticket Dashboard, it was a bonus. It was really simple and it probably stretched the imagination some to call it software, but I am a copywriter. I didn't have anybody complaining. The software today is one of those elements, and it's hard for software to be evergreen, it's probably not. This is part of an evergreen product and it's funny. It goes back to a Gary Halbert expression.  I miss Gary because he was so colorful. Some of the people listening may or may not know him. He was a very famous marketer. Gary said, "Man, I love marketing and sales. I love sending out thousands or mailing pieces of direct mail and just seeing those checks come in, but I'll tell you what. Fulfillment is a bitch." In his case he went to jail because he said he didn't actually fulfill. So for him it was literally a pitch. I don't know what the reality of that situation was, but what I do know is someone has to maintain the products. Even though it's evergreen, there's still got to be maintenance. Somebody's got to do it. Either you have to assign staff or you've got to buckle down and do it yourself. Now there is a solution to this, which is called relaunching. This is something I'm personally going to do because some of my products now need updated. After you update your products, you relaunch them. If somebody has been patient and managed to listen to me this long, here's the payoff. This guy named Alex Jeffreys was number one, two, three, four top JVZoo vendor. I think maybe last year or the year before he was number one. He literally relaunched products every four to six weeks. He would add a bonus or two and call it version three or call it version four. He put up fresh, new ten thousand dollar prizes for affiliates, and he would launch the product and get another three thousand sales just like he had six weeks before. He averaged like two to three thousand units of sales and he would throw in a bonus or two and not even rewrite the sales letter or anything.  When it comes to marketing and marketing your digital products, think of your target audience as parade goers. It's not like you get everyone that's ever going to buy your product into a room and you get to sell them all at one time. That's not how it works. That's one of the reasons why this sort of relaunching periodically does work because there are buyers that come into the marketplace and there are buyers that leave the marketplace. It's like a parade. That's one of the things you need to focus in on with regard to this whole idea of relaunching. Before we move on from the software, I just want to point out that you can, in fact, find public or PLR software. PLR software that's almost all the way built and you just have a programmer add an element or two. There is a site called Dynamic Drive where you can get software applications that you can use for free. If you're brand new and you haven't added software, don't start off with huge software. Keep it in the back of your mind or go look for something that's already been created. Something that you could buy either PLR or get for free. I've actually given away free software and shareware before in packages, and I really say, "Hey, yeah, this is a freeware." You don't have to create it, is my point. You can go out and find it elsewhere. It's simple. It's probably two or three hundred dollars to get it programmed if you have something real simple.

Examples of Evergreen Products

I'm going to turn the tables here a second, Daniel, because we haven't put you on the hot seat yet. What is the one speakers cruise freeproduct you have that is the most evergreen and why? For me it's very easy. It's the "Speakers Cruise Free" book. It's very sexy to be able to trade your talents for free on luxury cruises. There's a big industry around it, but it's really a niche within the speaking niche. I keep buyers coming because I still have affiliate relationships from ten years ago that still send me traffic and it still sells. It's a beautiful thing. Not only that, for me, because mine was so niched down, I'm about the only person that still survived in this niche. If you want anything to do with cruise ship speaking, you go buy my book, which, by the way, is available on You should buy it if that's one of the things that you're interested in. The second big evergreen product for me actually happens to be my Real Fast Book program. Eighty percent of the United States, I've heard that statistic anyway, wants to write a book in some way, shape, manner or form. They want to write the great American novel or to get a memoir out. For me, I put together a very step by step program on how to do that using CreateSpace and Kindle. By the way, if you go to, you can get a seven part free course that steps you through exactly how to go about putting together a print-on-demand book completely for free. Yes, there's going to be an offer at the , very end, but you're still going to get exceptionally good value in the seven video lessons that I put together. That'd be my second one. Daniel, back in early 1900's books were new then and that kind of topic was still selling back then. How to publish a book. They were doing it way back then, believe it or not. It's endlessly fascinating how some of these topics just keep enduring. Some of these topics just keep enduring.


Number one is you've got to find your evergreen topic.  Daniel just gave, what I think are, two marvelous examples. Number two is format. My preference is a format that's harder to compare the value on. We talked about adding a software element, if possible. The third step is merging it with what's selling right now today. Which is where software comes in. Or other current angles that are selling right now today that you could throw in as a bonus with it. Just because the product itself is evergreen doesn't mean you can't make it extremely timely by throwing in that hot sexy new topic as a bonus with it or as bonuses with it. There's a company that does about five or six hundred million dollars a year just using that marketing method. Agora publishes financial newsletters, like two or three hundred of them and options, stocks. Investing can be kind of dry and boring, but they make it incredibly interesting by adding in these bonuses on the hottest thing going. That's the bonus when you subscribe to the newsletter. They sell this stuff like there's no tomorrow by tapping into what is hot today. Whatever the hot topic is right now today, they're creating a bonus on it, packaging it in when you buy their newsletter.

Marketing Evergreen Products

I had a product, and evergreen product called "Book of Secrets." My best marketing secrets I learned in a lifetime. Well, I had typos in the sales letter and typos in the book. I personally don't care about typos. Other people care. I just don't care. I care about information. I don't care about typos. Anyway, Frank Kern comes along and says, "It's one of the greatest sales letters I've read in a long, long time," and people just go off on his Facebook because it has typos in it. I mean, they just go off. The sales are like pouring in from Frank's post. More and more people are seeing this. About a hundred people have commented. Sales are pouring in, pouring in, pouring in. Finally, I fixed the typos and all of the controversy died down and the sales stopped pouring in. I should've just left them in there. The headline had a typo in it. It was really bad. I should've just left them there because people are like, "Oh my God. I can't believe this," and just more sales keep pouring in for it. If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Contacting Marlon

I have a Facebook group. On Facebook search, Marlon Sanders, you'll find my Facebook group. If you go to I have a link over to my blog. is an easy way to find me. If you want the modern version of "Creating The Products Quick," that's at the

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Daniel's Real Fast Results Tips: Evergreen products

  • It's OK to use more than one format. One evergreen product may be a book, the other may be a dashboard.
  • It all boils down to the topic you pick. Make sure your topic is timeless.
  • Relaunching old products with new bonuses is an excellent way to go.


Dashboards by Marlon Sanders: Traffic Dashboard Info Product Dashboard Big Ticket Dashboard Marketing Dashboard Previous Podcasts That Help With Evergreen Products: Profiting From Low and No-Content Books With Kristen Joy Publishing And Profiting From Public Domain Content With Tony Laidig Open Source Software You Can Use As Bonuses - Dynamic Drive Daniel's Best Selling Evergreen Products Speakers Cruise Free
Jun 16, 2016
mike StewartWelcome to Real Fast Results!  We have a great show lined up for you today.  I have my good buddy, and mentor, Mr. Mike Stewart.  We’re here to chat about something that’s cutting edge.  If you want to develop your business so that you are “head and shoulders” above what your competitors are doing, or are willing to do, then you’re in the right place.  Throughout this episode, we’ll be talking about building up your platform, your list, and the ways that you connect with the market you serve.  More importantly, you’re going to learn how to go about doing this with live video! Mike Stewart has over 40 years of commercial/television experience and production.  He definitely knows how to produce quality television.  I really do appreciate Mike taking the time to help share his expertise with us. Take it away, Mike!

Embrace Live Video

My passion is helping the world understand how audio and video is now being transmitted into Video Marketing - video camerapeople’s pockets.  The result that I feel people should take away from this podcast is that getting content to your community and your audience has never been easier or faster.  There’s also never been a bigger reach than there is today. You have to understand that when I got my start, there was no Internet to turn to.  We are living in a very exciting time when it comes to communicating with audiences, especially since the principles of television haven’t changed and the production standards haven’t changed.  The pipeline has changed.  Forty years ago, even if you had millions or billions of dollars that it took to pay for the technology and the team you needed to get your message heard around the world, most people wouldn’t even have had the opportunity.  Nowadays, for less than the cost of a few bottles of wine or a trip to a fine restaurant, you could broadcast your content, in high definition, to the world. Your message can simply fall into the pockets of individuals who can follow you, like you, trust you, and ultimately, become paying customers of yours.  That’s why it’s an exciting time, and it’s not about just live video either.  It’s just that the makers of this technology, such as Facebook, Periscope, and so forth, all see that this pipeline is the way that human beings should receive the content.  The Principle of Television says that once you have built an audience, then you have the ability to advertise, which in turn results in profits, connections, and business.  You should embrace live video.  It’s a powerful opportunity that is staring people in the face, and yet, most people don’t even realize that it’s there for the taking.

Implementation Steps

First and foremost, you need to understand that live video is based around mobile technology (i.e. Smartphones & tablets).  We’ve had online video for over 15 years now, but that required a desktop computer or a laptop.  Today, we have what’s called Smartphones, but let’s call it what it is.  It’s really a computer, but in fact, the Smartphones of today are 10 times more powerful than the computer that got people on the moon.  So, you’re carrying around an extremely potent device in your pocket. 

Video Marketing - TabletStep 1 – Download Free Apps

The very first step that you need to take is to download the free apps that will allow you start practicing. If you’ve never gone live before, this is a big road block.  You have to get over the fact that you’re looking into a camera and talking to people.  You’ll need:
  • Facebook app
  • Facebook Pages Manager app
  • Periscope app
  • Blab app
  • YouTube Connect app
There are a lot of players in this pipeline, but the principles of television are the same across the board.  In other words, they are the same ones that were started back in the 1940’s, when television became the new pipeline for media and advertising.  The great thing about this is that you no longer have to go out and buy millions of dollars worth of equipment.  You already own it. Not only do you have the world’s most incredible camera in your pocket, you’ve got the software given to you by companies like Facebook, YouTube, Google, etc.  So, get started by practicing and getting comfortable about being an expert and an authority in your market so that you can talk into the lens of a camera.  That’s Step #1, and you can start that right now at no cost.  If you are an entrepreneur and you’re not doing this, you’re missing the opportunity of a lifetime.

Step 2 – Learn the Elements of Television

Video Marketing - TVStep number two is to learn the elements of television.  Anybody in the world could take a smartphone out of their pocket and start creating a selfie video.  However, to come across as a professional, you do need to know the elements of television, which are actually very basic.  You need to do a little bit of show-prep beforehand, and really think about the content that you’re going to create.  What problem are you going to talk about, and what solution are you going to share with your audience?  Every successful radio and television show since this industry began has had a staff of writers and production people. They also always had a system in place to ensure that they made the best show possible every time they did one.  On top of that, they constantly strived to improve what they were doing and up their game. Yes, it is possible for you to turn on your camera and just start talking, but you’re probably not going to build a very big audience this way.  In real television and radio, if your ratings are horrible, your show is going to get cancelled.  This is why it’s important to begin with some show-prep.  You need to think about specifics and make decisions accordingly.  For instance, you may decide that every morning you are going to do a live show at 9 am EST every Monday morning for 30 minutes, and each week you are going to have incredible content that completely blows people away, answers people’s questions, and provides them with great solutions.  The minute you finish one show, you’ll need to start prepping for the next one, and the next one, and so on. I like to study late night television.  They are constantly trying to have the best guests and the most awesome routines.  Further, they create elements that become familiar and are liked by their audience.  If you want to know how to do this in the best possible way, you’ll want to study highly rated television shows, and talk shows in particular.  Take a close look at what they are doing because it’s all based on principles that have been proven over the span of decades.  Johnny Carson created the same late-night television format that has worked for 50 years, and the reason it does work so well is because people like it. I was fortunate enough, in 1980, to produce a record for Ted Turner called “He Was Cable When Cable Wasn’t Cool.”  Ted Turner… They used to call him ‘The Mouth of the South’ because he was here from Atlanta.  A guy named Bob Neal and Ted Turner hired me to produce this record.  You can watch the video below. There’s about a 3-second clip of me when I was 25 years old. [youtube] It was the 1980’s… a long, long time ago, but I was amidst hearing Ted Turner say something that we all need to pay attention to.  He walked into the session that night and he said,”‘You know what I’m going to do?  I’m going to build a 24-hour a day news channel and put it up on satellite.” And, I sat there as a 25-year-old and said, ‘”Who’s going to watch the news 24 hours a day?” I was young and dumb.  Ted Turner had had a vision for CNN way back then, and I just downplayed it.   You know,  TBS was Ted’s.  He bought the local TV station, Channel 17, which later became the Super-station, TBS.   And he said, “You know?  We’ve got over 7 million subscribers to WTBS.  That’s more than any local station in the United States.’” I remember going, “Wow! Seven million people can watch our local TV station.”  That didn’t mean they were watching… that means the reach through cable, satellite networks and cable TV subscribers were only 7 million people.  With podcasts, with live Facebook, with Periscope, you have a reach right now, every one of you, of 7 billion, plus, and growing. It took years of marketing and consistency to get people to start tuning into CNN.  It also took a lot of money, technology, and teams to make this happen.  The different elements of television were all implemented in order to make CNN the brand that it is today.  It’s imperative that you have a vision and that you plan out how to make that vision a reality if you want to create anything lasting out of all of this.  Back in 1980, Ted Turner had the resources, the money, and the team to reach the world via satellite.  That’s why it was called “Cable News Network”.  That was the pipeline that only wealthy people, like Ted Turner, could reach.  You can do it with a $50 microphone and a computer today.

Great Content Is the Key

Video Marketing - ContentIt’s wonderful that this pipeline is now available to everyone.  However, you have to remember that it was the content that made the networks become hits.  It was the writing, the prep work, and the forethought.  They thoroughly thought about what their audience would embrace.  That’s what you need to take away from this.  The pipeline has been given to you for free, and the stars have come about using YouTube, podcasts, and so on. The new horizon is going live. There are two big benefits to going live.  The minute you’re done, your content is done, and you can build an audience.  Eight o’clock on Sunday nights, America used to tune into The Ed Sullivan Show.  People flocked by the millions to view this show because they knew that the show would have amazing content, as it did each and every week.  That’s just one of many examples that could be provided, but it does illustrate how a TV show can capture people’s attention so well and make completely devoted fans of them. You should strive to provide content that people can depend on and enjoy with each show you produce.  That means you’ll need to prep for your shows and you need to consistently deliver quality content.  If you’re not willing to commit to that, then the product that you produce won’t last.  It’s all well and good to play around and publicize silly, slightly entertaining content, like that which one sees on social media all of the time nowadays.  If you want business, however, you’re going to need to utilize some of the systems that TV has been following for years.

How to Prep for Shows and Provide Consistency

You’ve got to know your audience.  In television and radio, they use focus groups.  Basically, this is just a way toVideo Marketing - preparing go about interviewing the audience you are targeting and asking them what it is that they want.  You can easily do this kind of thing online now.  You can email people and survey them to find out what they would like.  That’s show prep.  When you know what your audience wants, you can deliver those things with your content.  You might think that you already know what they want, but you may be wrong.  That’s why you need to survey them and ask them questions. The entertainment industry is a slightly different animal.  They use focus groups to try out different angles, and when they find a winner, everyone copycats it.  The information you are being provided today focuses on how business owners can use live streaming and other forms of video content to share their expertise and better reach their audience of potential clients and customers.  There was a “blab” that interested me.  An attorney was speaking with a social media personality.  The social media person was asking the attorney if it was legal to play music in his live streams.  This was a very good show, because it answered questions that people had about the legal aspects of copyrights. The makers of this show surely crafted the content around questions that people were asking, and addressing those needs was what made the show a hit with me and most likely the rest of the viewers that day.  In fact, the podcast episode that this very text is based upon addresses the questions surrounding why live video was so important in this day and age.  You can do the same with just about any topic.  Find out what people want to know, and then get an expert to answer those questions on your video, podcast, live streaming, etc. Live video is the fastest and easiest way to create content.  When you get good at going live, your content will be done in the speediest way possible.  As I mentioned earlier, I am big fan of late night television.  You can learn a lot by watching these pros.  I went to watch David Letterman about six times while they were shooting it. The main purpose I had for attending was to watch how these shows are made.  It took a team of 50 people, and these guys had the process down.  The best part about it was that if the show started at 4:30 pm, it was done by 5:30.  Since they pre-taped these shows, if something major got screwed up, they could stop and edit it out.  Still, 99 times out of 100, what happened within that 60-minute time frame was what aired that night in the show’s time slot. The magic of live television is that it’s fast and the content requires no editing.  The minute you’re done, you’re done.  Shows like this aren’t expected to be perfect, and late night television is never scripted.  Part of what’s so entertaining about it is that no one knows what’s going to happen.  The host has a series of questions, and if the people are good guests, the content will be good.  I recommend that you watch what people do on these successful TV shows and emulate that to the best of your ability.  It’s also very important that you prep well for your shows.  Just these two little tips will allow you to surpass a large majority of your competition. It’s also quite imperative that you stay consistent with your show, especially when it comes to how you schedule your episodes.  Of course, when and for how long you host your shows is totally up to you. However, I recommend having a show that’s no less than 15 minutes long, held once a week.  Remember, one of the reasons why The Ed Sullivan Show was so successful was because people knew it was going to come on at the same time each week, and people made sure that they were there to view it.  A big difference between one of these types of shows and one of your own is that you can monetize your own show better than CBS could back in the day because there’s much less overhead involved for you nowadays. Another advantage that we have today is that live streaming allows for more interaction.  You can’t really interact with most television shows, but with live streaming, you are able to submit questions, make comments, and even shape what goes on in the show to a certain degree.  You can even challenge what’s being said.  This helps to make these types of shows even more entertaining and informative.

Types of Microphones

Video Marketing - microphonesA different type of advantage that we have today is that you can purchase studio-quality equipment very inexpensively.  A good place to find great microphones, in particular, is  If you don’t have much of a budget, that’s okay.  You can still call a rep and let them know what your budget is.  There are so many different microphones out there, and you can find them available at all types of different price ranges.  Many of the inexpensive ones are still high-quality and can do just about as good of a job as the more expensive ones. Now, you don’t want to use a poor-quality microphone for your videos, live streaming, etc.  One of my favorite types of microphones is the Apogee iPad/iPhone mic.  It is built and designed to plug directly into your Apple mobile devices.  This microphone costs around $200, but it’s as good as any studio microphone I’ve ever used.  No matter what you decide to use, don’t skimp on buying a good-quality mic.  Again, there are some cheaper versions that work just as well as the more expensive ones, but you should really take some time to shop around and make sure that you are getting something that will give you the best quality sound. The iRig HD is also a quality mic that you can use.  You can plug it into your computer’s USB port or even into your iPad or iPhone.  One of the things that makes this particular mic so great is that it’s very forgiving, meaning that it really only picks up your voice, even if there’s a lot of background noise going on.  You know, you’re never going to eliminate that completely, but for the most part, your voice comes through clearly and a lot of the background noise is eliminated.

How to Get Started

Keep in mind that you don’t have to use a great microphone to practice.  The built in microphones on most smart Video Marketing - Getting Starteddevices are very good.  One thing that you might try is practicing on Facebook Live because you can do this by yourself and not have to go public until you get comfortable.  You can start right now by using your smartphone and Facebook Live to practice.  Also, if you don’t have a business page on Facebook, you should build one today.  It’s okay to use your regular profile to be social, but you’ll need a business page if you want to be professional.  Then, you can start streaming live to that page or to a closed business group for practice. Practice privately and look at your results.  You can also practice in front of an open group or send your streaming video to an event page, if you like.  All of these things are free to use on Facebook, and if you send your streaming to a closed group or a business page with no one on it yet, you can practice privately.  This is a great way to start.  For your first step, you’ll want to get the Facebook Pages Manager app so that you can set up a business page and practice live streaming to it. The Facebook app is a wonderful app to use for this because it allows you to switch between the cameras in your phone.  A mistake that people make a lot in their live streaming is that they are constantly on camera.  That’s not quality filming.  If you’ve ever paid attention to the camera work as you watch TV, then you know that the visual is constantly changing, even on talk shows and the news.  The cameras never stay on the same image for more than 10 seconds.  Our eyes get tired of seeing the same image for any longer than that, so you should always switch between images and angles every 7-10 seconds, at the most.  That’s a television principle that you need to follow. When you are filming with a mobile device, you should never hold it in your hand as you do so.  Keep that in mind as well.  Use some sort of selfie stick, tripod, or mount.  It’s okay to take a selfie photo, but selfie videos look unprofessional.  When you try to hold a camera as you’re filming, it shakes too much.  This is true for even the steadiest-handed people.  You don’t want to make your audience members nauseous, so get some sort of mount for your camera.  These are dirt-cheap and can help you to make much better-looking videos.  One tool that you might try is the iPad Tablet Mount.  You can attach any tablet to this tripod, regardless of the size. Part of your prep-work is going to be setting up a nice background for your shoot.  You can shoot your video or live stream recording in an office setting or something like that, but it needs to be clean and well-lit.  You should have lighting on your face, and there shouldn’t be too many shadows lurking in the background.  Again, you should also be free of the camera you are using, not trying to hold it yourself.  You really can just use your cell phone to do this sort of thing, if you’ll just invest in a couple of little tools to make your video quality a bit better. Again, all of this advice is based upon television principles that have been around since the 40’s.  There are five elements of television that I like to teach people.  If you’re not using these, then your videos will be lower quality than most television programs.  The elements you need to apply are:
  1. Changing Scenes – Never focus on a single image for any length of time. Watch 60 Minutes. When someone talks, the camera switches to the next guy, and then it goes back to the interviewer.  After that, the camera may move to a cutaway shot.  The view is constantly changing.
  2. Good, Close-Mic Audio – Many people make the mistake of being too far from the microphone, and this makes the audio sound poor and echoic.
  3. Lower Third Text – This just means that any text you use should be located within the lower-third portion of the screen.
  4. Music – You should include theme songs, musical transitions, and the like in your videos and streams. The only trick to this is that you have to use royalty-free music or music you have a license to.
  5. Sound Effects – People forget how powerful sound effects can be. Things like the chirping of crickets at night are little things that no one pays attention to, but subliminally at least, they make a difference.  Movie and television producers painstakingly take the time to create that illusion of reality with sound.
There are ways that you can include all five of these in your live streams in order to make the best-quality content possible.  If you weren’t aware of these things, now you are.  You can’t say that you didn’t know about them.

Connect with Mike

You can actually go to  Mike’s podcast is all about audio and video strategies that people can use to make better audio and television for the Web.  Also, Mike Stewart, Jeff Herring, and Daniel Hall all did a webinar together where they talked about a lot of this same stuff.  During the webinar, these men demoed several different apps.  You should check this out if you’re interested in learning more about how to create live streams professionally.

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Jun 14, 2016
Jim EdwardsHello! Welcome to another episode of Real Fast Results. For this episode, I have somebody that I really look up to and have for a very long time. I also follow him. I believe you should follow him very closely as well. That's my good friend and mastermind partner, Jim Edwards. In today's episode, we're going to cover how to go about putting together and writing your book, your eBook or your Kindle book, in 3 hours or less. Let's face it. We want a book and hardly any of us have the time to actually write a book. Anything that can manifest that result quickly. In other words, have a book that represents you and your company and your ideas well, and do it quickly. That's what we're all about here at Real Fast Results. Jim has a very streamlined process that has this ability to crank out a high quality piece of prose or a high quality manuscript that's suitable for publishing as an eBook, a Kindle book, etc.

People Publish Books For Different Reasons

I think the number one reason why you want to have a book might be different for different people. However, it Book Collection - bookcomes down to increased credibility. Everybody respects somebody who's got a book. If you've got a book and you can hold it up and show it to somebody. Here is my most recent one. Making Money with Kindle Books: Myths, Misconceptions, and the Truth Every Entrepreneur Needs to Know. The gist of it is that if you're a coach, it gives you the credibility to attract new coaching students. If you're a speaker, it gives you the credibility to be speaking on a topic. If you're an info marketer, it gives you something to sell. If you're a professional of any type in business, it gives you massive credibility.


I'm going to tell you a real quick story about my very first book that I self-published. The reason I self-published it, was not to sell the book, but it was actually to use it to help me get business. At the time, I was a real estate agent. I wrote a book on how to sell your house yourself. The whole reason I created the book was to be able to use it as a tool to meet people who were trying to sell their house themselves. I would give them a copy of my book. Show them I was an expert. If they ended up not being able to sell their house themselves, or once they read about exactly how to do it and they decided, "Hey, I don't actually want to do this." Then I was able to successfully list a lot of their houses because they trusted me. I ended up being an award-winning realtor and winning tons of different listing contests because I was able to leverage that book. There are a lot of ways to use a book. It really just depends on whether you want to use it to sell it to make money, use it to build your list, use it to increase credibility, get more clients or a host of other reasons. Nothing bad comes from having a book that you can hold up and show somebody, "Hey, I've written a book. I have a book on this topic." Especially if they're in your target market.

8 Steps To Turn An Interview Into A Book

Book Collection - interviewOne quick thing before I give you the steps. You need to reprogram yourself. Stop thinking in terms of writing a book, and start thinking in terms of creating a book. Writing a book is hard. It means sitting down and typing at 40 to 50 words per minute for days and weeks on end and driving yourself nuts. When you think of creating a book: creating a book means that you create the content. We'll do that by actually just talking the book out. Literally talking it out by having a conversation with a friend over the phone. Something all of us have been doing since we were 5 years old and figured out how to dial the phone. On overview of the 8 Steps: 
  • Step one is to define your audience.
  • Step two is to prepare the interview that's going to become your book. Your book's content is going to be created as an interview.
  • Step three is to order your book's cover before you even create the content. We'll talk about why.
  • Step four is to actually record the interview for free using your phone. I'll show you a couple of ways to do that.
  • Step five is to have that conversation, that recording transcribed.
  • Step six is to do a light edit of that transcription.
  • Step seven is to hire somebody to format that transcript and turn it into a book format, which is only going to cost you 5 or 10 bucks.
  • Step eight is actually pretty anti-climactic because you're just going to upload a couple of files to Kindle. Poof or I should say presto. Not poof. Presto, you are a published author. There are a couple of other things you can do to actually turn that Kindle book into a print book that will cost you not very much at all.

Step 1 - Define Your Audience

Step number one is define your audience. People talk a lot about audiences and segmentation. It actually comes down to just 3 simple questions. 
  1. Who are you creating the book for? Who? Who's the audience for this book?
  2. What are you creating the book about? What's the topic? The best topics to create books around are problems. To solve somebody's problem is the number one thing you want to do. I don't know the exact statistics, but I think it's four times as many people will act to solve a problem or to avoid pain than they will to get a result. Your best topics are solving problems.
  3. What do they want? What's the payoff that they're looking for? It should be something that's pretty severe as far as the problem goes.
I like to use this metaphor: If somebody's in a chainsaw accident, they're not going to ask the ambulance driver how much is this ride to the hospital going to be or how much is that tourniquet going to cost me. That's a real problem as opposed to somebody who's got a hangnail. They're comparison shopping for band aids at the Walmart while they're sipping their double latte cappuccino. That is not a problem. You want a severe, pressing, painful problem that you really want to solve. It's a very specific audience that you're targeting.

Step 2 - Prepare The Interview

Step two is you need to prepare the interview. That's really 2 parts.

Part 1 - You want to have an angle for your interview.

Number one, you want to have an angle for your interview. Are you going to be talking mainly about mistakes? Are you going to give people a road map? Are you going to give them a beginner's guide? Are you going to give them tips, tricks, and secrets? You need to have a track that you're going to run down for doing an interview. It can't just be a series of random questions. It's got to have a track, so that it takes them from A to B to Z in an organized way that makes sense. That's how books are put together.

Part 2  - Put together the questions.

The second part is to put together the questions. Most people talk between 110 and 150 words per minute. Which means a 60 to a 90-minute interview is a perfect length for a Kindle book. A good length for a Kindle book is somewhere between 4,000, 5,000, and 10,000 words. Let's say, between 4 and 10,000 words, which typically comes out to be an hour, hour and a half of talk time. Parts of an interview:
  • Your interview needs to have an introduction that obviously introduces you, who you are and why they should listen to you.
  • You have the body of the interview, which is basically just a series of questions, again, along a track. What's the first mistake people make? What's another mistake that people make that cost them time? What's another mistake that people make that they think is actually the right thing to do, but is the worst thing they could ever do? Those types of things.
  • You have a conclusion. The conclusion is basically, "Thanks for joining us. Here are some instructions for how to get more results or take the next step." That's where you really want to drive people to your website and get them to sign up with you.

Step 3 - Order Your Book Cover

Step three is to actually order your book cover before you actually do the interview with your friend over the phone. Book Collection - order book coverThe reason you do that is twofold. Number one, it keeps you from having to wait to get your cover once you've done the interview and have the book ready. Number two, it helps you to build momentum. I order my covers from At, Kindle covers will cost you $10 or $20 depending on the options that you use. If you know you want to turn your Kindle book into a print book, there are a lot of people that'll do a cover for you that's a Create Space cover and a Kindle cover. You kill 2 birds with 1 stone. That'll cost you about $20 or $30. The only caveat to that is if you're doing Create Space, you're going to have to write some back cover copy. One of the easiest ways to do that, is just to tell people, "These are the questions we're going to answer in this interview." They're the bullets for your back cover copy. You don't have to make it tough. This really helps you build momentum.

Step 4 - Record The Interview

Step four is to actually record the interview for free using your phone. You do the interview as a conversation over the phone. There are 2 methods you can use:
  1. You can use your smartphone. Smartphones actually have amazing microphones in them. There's an app called the RINGR. It works on iPhone and Android. The gist of how it works is, you get on the phone. Your friend gets on the phone. You push a couple of buttons. RINGR will record both sides of the conversation. When you're done with the conversation, both phones upload the recording to the RINGR website. RINGR emails an MP3 file, an audio file of both those mashed together. It sounds really good, almost as if you two were in the same room. It's absolutely free.
  2. If you don't have a smartphone, then you can log on to You can create a free account. You have a phone number and a PIN number. You both call in. You're on the web at the same time with your little interface on You hit the record button. You talk. Ask, answer questions. You're done. You hit stop. You download the MP3 file. It's super easy and simple.
Everybody can talk on the phone. If you can't talk on the phone, you probably can't write a book. I'm assuming you can talk on the phone. Don't try and do it with Skype. Use the phone because you can talk on a phone, and everybody has a phone. It takes between 60 and 90 minutes to have the interview conversation.

Step 5 - Have The Interview Transcribed

Book Collection - transcribedStep number five is you send that MP3 audio fileto a site called to have it transcribed. I like because it's really easy. Some people ask, "Why couldn't I go to" Or "If I've got this" or "I go to that" etc. is like the Walmart of transcriptions. They have a bunch of people doing transcriptions. If you have a problem, you can get it fixed. They charge a dollar a minute. If you're going to do a 60-minute transcription, then it costs you $60. You'll know exactly how much it's going to cost you because when you upload it, they'll see how long it is and they say, "It's 61 minutes. Give us $61, and we'll have it transcribed." Daniel and I have both used a lot. They are an excellent  service.

Step 6 - Lightly Edit The Transcription

Step six is you do a light edit of the transcript when you get it back. Now, here's the thing. I have seen this is where a lot of people get derailed. You need to understand that the way you talk is different than the way you're going to write.  You're not going to rewrite what you've spoken. What you're going to do is go through the transcript and check for spelling and punctuation. Or if you have a friend who's better at spelling and punctuation than you are, then do that. I always like to just hit F7 in my Word because that's a spelling and punctuation and grammar check from my buddy, Bill Gates. The other thing I like to do is break up what I call "chunky paragraphs." With eBooks and books now, the rules of paragraphs and grammar learned in high school don't apply as much as they used to. I like to break up anything that's over 4 lines into its own paragraph, 4 or 5 lines. I don't worry about proper paragraph structure. I just break them up, especially for Kindle. A very important thing you need to do is add your author bio. You're going to want to add a call to action. A call to action is basically "go to my website and register" or "this book is one of the easiest things" or "go to my website and get a video" or "one of the easiest things you can do," etc. Here's a cool tip. I wasn't actually planning on revealing this. Listen very carefully because this is super cool. The whole reason you're writing a book, in many cases, is to get people onto your list. We have created this book by doing an audio interview. Therefore, the audio book version of your book is already done. You have the audio done. What you can do is offer the audio book version for free, if they will go to your website and register. That's a neat little tip. You can offer that right at the beginning of the book. One of the important things you want to do is add a cover letter that explains to people right at the beginning of the book, "Hey, I just wanted to let you know that this book was originally created as a live interview. That's why it reads as a conversation and maybe a little different than what you're used to with a regular book." As soon as people read that, they go, "Oh, okay. I understand. Now, this reads like we're having a conversation," as opposed to "Hey, this doesn't read like a book." If you just add that simple little cover letter and explain that it was done as a live event or a live conversation or a live interview, people are totally fine with it. That's an important thing to remember. Don't forget the cover letter that it's a live interview format.

Step 7 - Hire Someone To Format Your Book

I like to think of this like a bobsled run. We're coming into the homestretch because now that you've got this thing Book Collection - formatedited, all you have to do is get it formatted for Kindle. That's we're going to go back to Where we got our cover made. We're going to hire somebody to do formatting. You just do a search for Kindle formatting or a search for Create Space formatting. If you're going to have somebody format it for Create Space, which is Amazon's print on-demand arm, then you can often find people who will do a 2-for-1 deal. "I'll format for Create Space and Kindle for $20." $10 or $15. I don't know. Whatever it is. It's usually based on the number of pages. Typically though, doing an interview for 60 or 90 minutes, puts you at the lower end to the mid-range of what people are charging. It's not very much money. Here's the tip. Make each main question in the interview a chapter. That's how you have a book with chapters. Each question is a chapter. Now, it might only be a page or 2 pages long when you get it back from Rev. However, by the time somebody gets through formatting it, it can turn into 5, 6, 7, 8 pages in a print book. In a Kindle book, they really don't have pages. They just have percentage finished in the book. That's key is to make sure that each main question is a chapter when they're formatting the book.

Step 8 - Upload Your Files

Once you get that back, it's as simple as you log on to If you don't have an account, you can sign up for one. You just upload your Kindle book. Like I said earlier, it's anti-climactic. It is because all you're doing is just copying and pasting stuff in.
  • You paste in the title of your book.
  • You paste in the description of your book.
  • You paste in the 5 keywords or the 5 keyword tags that make the most sense.
The one thing I would tell you is that typically, when they ask you to choose 2 categories for your Kindle book, they'll make no sense because the ones you think it should be in, they won't be there. Kindle or Amazon will assign you categories later. Don't spend a ton of time on the category thing because it never works out. I've never had anybody said, "They had the perfect category right there for me, Jim. It was amazing." That takes 5 minutes. All you're doing is just uploading files by selecting them from your hard drive. It's super fast. If you want to upload to Create Space, it's equally as easy. You're just copying and pasting in the forms. Literally, uploading and publishing on Kindle takes 5 minutes. Congratulations. You are now a published author with a new, original book.

The Interview Process Is One Of The Fastest Ways To Create Content

Book Collection - audioThank you, Jim for sharing those incredible 8 steps. The main thing I want everyone to understand is that the interview process is one of the fastest ways to create very valuable, compelling content very quickly. I'd like to highlight a few things Jim discussed so you understand their importance. The cover letter at the very beginning of the book that lets people know, "Hey, this really is a conversation,"  "that's what this book is." It does save you lots of time trying to rework the prose and what not. That's one of the reasons why you can do this whole process in 3 hours or less total time. That's a very important thing I wanted you to understand. The other thing that I really want to highlight here is the cover. Having that cover created beforehand, also very crucial in my opinion, gives you a lighthouse, a target to aim at as you actually produce the rest of your book. As you do your interviews, as you set up your questions and so forth. Super important. I love the tip Jim gave of taking and using the audio book. The audio that you created to create the book, as your opt-in. That makes perfect sense. I've been saying all along, within the Real Fast Results podcast, that you need to be using your digital publications to not only create revenue and royalties, but also build your list. Build your platform and your community. This is a perfect way to not only create the book quickly, but also have something to give away on the back end. It's form-fitted to that particular audience. It's not like, "Would they be interested in this other thing that I might have? Maybe and maybe not." You know for a surety that they're interested in the content that they just received. Chances are very high that they will take you up on that offer to get the audio book version because they're already reading text of that same material. That's masterful. Thanks, Daniel! One cool thing that you can do, if you know you're going to use the audio for free, when you're having your cover made, you can have one of the those starburst or seals that says, "Bonus: Free audio book version available."

Kindle Wizard by Jim Edwards

What we have is a piece of software. It's called the 3-Hour Kindle Book Wizard. It's available at What it does is it makes this whole process even easier because all you do is fire up the software on either a PC or a Mac. Basically, it walks you through some steps, asks you some questions about your audience, about yourself, about your topic and other things. It creates everything for you. It has 11 different interview tracks that you can run down that'll create all the questions that you need to have somebody interview you. It does the intros and the conclusions and everything. It writes all your sales copy for you. It writes all of your back cover copy for you. It creates all the emails that you need to announce your book to your list, to get other people to announce your book to their list. It'll even create an entire Power Point slide deck that you could use if you wanted to present your interview as a webinar. It writes all your ads for you for your book. It literally does everything you need to prepare to do this process even down to writing the thank you note. Thanking the person who interviewed you. It's that level of detail I would definitely tell you to go and check out that link:, because you can see how the software works, what's entailed, all that good stuff. Literally, in 10 to 12 minutes, you can fill out the software and have every single piece of the puzzle done and ready to go for you to then jump on the phone with your buddy. Have them interview you. Order your cover, and you're on your way, and all the other stuff that you need for this process. It is pretty amazing. Thanks, Jim! The software is awesome. It actually takes what you've taught us here today to a whole other level. One of the things that I personally love about it is the fact that not only does it do all this other great stuff, as you say, but it actually writes your Amazon description. All of this stuff is done for you. By the way, the link that Jim gave you is my affiliate link, for full disclosure. To keep the lights on around here, we're giving you that affiliate link.

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Daniel's Real Fast Results Tips: Turing An Interview Into A Book

  • When you're doing your interview, just have a conversation.
  • Make sure you know your target audience and what problems they want solved.
  • Whether you'll look into Jim's software or not, what you learned was completely A to Z. You can definitely do it with what you learned here.


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Jun 7, 2016

Welcome to another podcast episode at Real Fast Results! We have a great show for you. I have back with us Mr. Dan Hollings. As you've already heard, Dan is the mastermind behind the movie and the book launch for The Secret. You remember that movie? It basically put the whole idea of law of attraction on the map. And it made virtual stars out of many of the experts and speakers that were in that movie and book.

When I was talking to Dan, when we were doing another podcast episode about this, I said, "Dan wouldn't it be great if you could teach my folks how to use some of the strategies in putting The Secret movie on the map--but use them in our day to day business?" And I said could you do that, and Dan was gracious enough to say, "Yes I can do that." So, welcome back Mr. Dan Hollings.


Background on "The Secret"

The Secret was an absolute marketing phenomena. When the client came to me, they had already tried to get it on thesecretTV. They had also tried to get it in movie houses and places of that nature. They were about to throw in the towel. They approached me and I thought, interesting, I didn't know what the movie was about, that's what's crazy, because they didn't reveal much to me. However, I knew some of the speakers that were in the movie. Honest to God, this was my logic, "If this doesn't work, at least I'll meet Jack Canfield!" I knew he was in the movie. He was the only person that I knew and I figured, well, he might end up being a good client. It was a crazy reason that I took it on.

At the time we thought it was going to be on television. They told me they were going be on television in 60 different countries. All on the same day or the same week, and I'm thinking, "Wow! All I have to do is build a way to convert the traffic from the television program into purchases of the movie and the book."

Incidentally, the movie came out first, almost a year before the book came out. So I came on board, and then I found out they weren't going to be on TV. They left everything in my lap. I really spent hours and hours putting this together. However, I used a strategy which we'll talk about today; which you probably never heard of.

This was way back before people did all of the product launches that you hear about and the book launches that you hear about. Back when the Secret came out, this was 2007, that wasn't something many people did. This was one of the very first of the mega-launches that required a lot of things.What we are going to talk about today is a very unique strategy that I used. You could take this and use it yourself in any product services or books that you want to market.

20 Master Plots: And How to Build Them

20 Master PlotsThere's a book. I'm going to recommend you get this book. The book is called, 20 Master Plots: And How to Build Them by Ronald Tobias. I don't know much about him. If you are and auth0r, 20 Master Plots would be a book you would buy in order to teach you how to develop plots that could improve the writing of your books.

I did something with this book that was rather unique. I read it through the eyes of a marketer. What hit me was that you could take the same elements of these plots and you could embed it into a marketing campaign and thereby get some viral going. Really get it so that people were compelled, to not only engage with what you were doing, but to share it. That's what I did.

What the Book Is About

Here's what this book is about, and why it is an incredible book for marketers. It was not written for marketers, by the way. Basically, what Tobias has done is he went all the way back to Shakespeare. All the way up to modern movies. He figured out that if you really boil down all of the things that make us as humans really interested in books and in movies or plays. It really centers around a plot.

There are only 20 core types of plots. Every movie, every book that you get interested in, it's probably one of these 20 plots. What you can do, I recommend you read the whole book, but what I did is I ended up picking one of these plots.  The one that I picked was master plot number 7 which is called the Riddle. I read that chapter over and over and over again, and then I set up a marketing campaign based on that type of plot.Now, with a riddle, and this isn't like these little simple riddles, this is a riddle as a plot.

There are 3 phases of a riddle plot:

  1. The first phase you set up the story. You set up the scenario of the story. The protagonist and the antagonist etc.
  2. The second phase is where you lay out the mystery.
  3. The third phase is where you solve the riddle.

How to Use the Plot Technique in Marketing

If you do this in a marketing campaign, you're going to tell the first 2 phases of the plot to your visitors/audience. Before they can get the solution to the riddle, the last phase, they have to give you an email, or they have to purchase the product. If you were to go back and look at what I did with Secret: the landing page, all of the wording, the information that was put out into press releases and shared through emails through and a lot of databases.

Basically, we were revealing the first 2 phases of a plot. It made it so darn compelling that you just had to put in your email in order to find out what the answer was. Then you ended up talking to people because you were perplexed, it was like, "Wait a minute, let's see, this happened, could it be this, was it that?" It's just like watching a mystery on television. People started talking about this.

I found it fascinating because of a strange reason: I too didn't know the answer to the riddle, because I hadn't seen the movie. I was hanging out online, and it was amazing that people were making blog posts and sharing all over the place. Talking about, "Oh I think its aliens from another planet, and oh no if he goes back and its the secret societies from years ago." All these conspiracy theories were flying around on the web back and forth. "What is the Secret?" "What is the Secret?" The reason that conversation started was because of the way the campaign had been laid out literally as a story.

Example - Modern Legend

I'd like to illustrate this for you. In the book they call this invisible fiction. There's a type of fiction known as a chocking dobermanmodern legend. It is a story that gets started and shared from person to person to person over years. It's not like anybody really ever sat down and mapped out the story. It's just passed along and pretty soon people start to believe the story is true. Even though it really isn't. There's a great example that I want to share that will help you get the thrust of why this works so well in marketing.

This is an example of a modern legend. This is a story which is called the Choking Doberman, and this is a true story. It's been around for years. You may have even heard it. It's a very simple story told simply. I'm going to stop at the point where I turned into a marketer and said, "Okay, give me your email address and I'll tell you the rest of the story." You'll see that you will want to give me your email address. I'm not really going to ask.

A woman returned to her house after a morning of shopping and she found her pet doberman pinscher choking and unable to breathe. She rushed her dog to the vet, where she left it for emergency treatment. When the woman got home, her phone was ringing and it was the vet.

"Get out of your house now!" He shouted.

"What's the matter?" She asked.

"Just do it. Go to a neighbor's house, anything. I'll be right there," Frightened by the tone of his voice, the woman did as she was told and she went to her neighbor's house. In a few minutes, 4 police cars screeched to a halt in front of the house. The police ran inside her house with their guns drawn. Horrified, the woman went outside to see what was happening. The vet arrived and then he explained...... If you'll enter in your email address right now, I'll tell you rest of the story.

Can you see whats happened? I played out a mystery here. By the way this is a real one. This is a story that has been shared around the world. The book is called The Choking Doberman: And Other Urban Legends. You can see that you want to hear the end of the story right? Let me do that.

Again, I'll remind you, this is the kind of thing that we did with the Secret. You just had to know what happened. You put in your email address or you bought the movie

The rest of the story: A few minutes later, the 4 police cars screeched to a halt in front of the house. The police ran inside her house with their guns drawn. Horrified, the woman went outside to see what was happening. The vet arrived and explained. When he looked inside the dog's throat, he found 2 human fingers. He figured the dog had surprised a burglar. Sure enough, the police found a man in a deep state of shock hiding in the closet and clutching a bloody hand.

Okay, it's a simple story, but that's what I did. Orchestrating the campaign with the Secret, we took the idea that there was this secret that had been passed down for centuries and great people knew about it. A little bit of it was fiction, believe me. Yet, it had been passed down and passed down.Lo and behold, here we are in the modern day world and this secret has been dug up and we're about to reveal it again to the world. This secret can make you happy, it can make you wealthy, it can make you healthy, it can do all of these things. Give me your email. I mean come on!

That's it. It was that simple; combined with some marketing skills and some databases and some things of that nature. This was a zero-cost campaign. They did not spend any money on this campaign of any significance. They didn't have any. Yet, we were able to catapult that into one of the most successful launches of all time.

Steve Jobs...The iPhone...The Secret

Steve_Jobs_Headshot_2010-CROPMy clients were not particularly interested in selling their product on Amazon. I was trying to figure every channel that I could to get this movie out into the marketplace. Again, it was a movie in the beginning. I had struck a tentative deal with Amazon. I presented it back to my client and they just flat-out said no. I'm thinking, "Wow! This is not good!" The year before, the number 1 selling movie on Amazon was a similar kind of movie.

Amazon got real interested because this was a similar kind of movie. Amazon had the database of people who had bought that big hit movie. They were willing to mail that list and do a whole bunch of things. My client thought that it would cannibalize sales, because they were selling only directly off the website, the website I had built. They were about 40 million dollars at that point, and I was saying hey, "Amazon has all the customers. They're willing to do this."  When the client said no, I didn't like that. I was in to get a percentage of proceeds, so I was really eager to get this thing out.

Then, very fortuitously, a good friend of mine, who was also a client of mine, called me up one day and said, "Dan, I heard you were the guy marketing the Secret." I said, "Yep, it's me." He said, "I have a distributorship and I can buy these movies wholesale from the movie maker. They're kind of expensive, but I can buy them in lots of 10 thousand."

I'm thinking, "Maybe I should do it." Lights went off in my head and I said, "You know what? You and I are going to put this on Amazon." My client didn't want to put it on Amazon, but this was a distributor who had the right to do so. He and I worked together. We put the product on Amazon, and herein lies what Daniel was talking about. This thing took off like crazy on Amazon.

When Steve Jobs got up to demonstrate the iPhone, for the very first time. It was history in the making. We think about shopping on our phone right now like it's an everyday thing. More people shop on their phone then on their computer.

Back then, no one ever shopped at Amazon on their phone. This was a brand new idea. Steve Jobs gets up on the stage and says, "Hey, lets go to Amazon." He's going to demonstrate how finally for the first time, you can use your smartphone to buy things online. He heads over to Amazon, he holds up the phone, he didn't say anything but The Secret was number three on his phone on Amazon at that point in time.

I'm sitting there, my jaw is dropping, I grab a screenshot of it and everything. It was me and a distributor that did that. It wasn't my client that did it. We were just kind of selling it out of our basement, literally. It was crazy.

Recap - Plots

I think with almost any product you can embed it within a plot of some type. I didn't do this earlier, so let me do it now. Let me tickle your fancy a little bit.

Types of plots:

  • the Quest
  • the Adventure
  • the Pursuit
  • the Rescue
  • the Escape
  • the Revenge
  • the Riddle (which is the one I used)
  • the Rivalry
  • the Underdog
  • Temptation
  • Metamorphosis
  • Transformation
  • Maturation
  • Love
  • Forbidden Love
  • Sacrifice
  • Discovery
  • Wretched Excess

I'd love to do one under Wretched Excess. That's most of the 20 plots. I've actually used other type plots with other campaigns that I've done. But, it's the Secret that actually did the best.

20 Master Plots: And How to Build Them is a good read. If you're an author, you're going to get double benefit. If you're a marketer it can help you with that. Give it a read and read it through the eyes of a marketer. If there are ways you can embed plots into your marketing campaign, that will affect the way you stage things. What you say in your emails, what you say in your webpage, etc.

It's always the idea of revealing a certain amount and then requiring that the visitor take action. Either to purchase or to opt in, come to an event or something in order to find out the last phase of the plot. Remember, there's always 3 phases of the plot; it's just which kind of plot you are going to use.

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Daniel's Real Fast Result Tips: Plot Marketing

  • Cherry-pick the plot that best fits what your market is and what your product and service is.
  • Pluck out the specific elements and use it in your auto-responders, on your web-pages, etc.
  • This and leaves out the tension by having your prospects take the actions you want them to take.


Book - The Secret

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By Ronald Tobias20 Master Plots: And How to Build Them

The Choking Doberman: And Other Urban Legends